Moselle area

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Moselle area

Postby roberts8 » 11 Mar 2017, 10:55pm

We are thinking of driving down to the the River Moselle and doing day rides from a fixed base. I would guess the central section. Does anyone who knows the area have any suggestions. It looks like we could cycle one way and get a train or ferry back, is that an option?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Moselle area

Postby PDQ Mobile » 11 Mar 2017, 11:38pm

Upper Moselle area is nice.
Japanese Knotweed is a problem along the river.
Rural. Quiet. Pleasant. Friendly.
Wooded Vosges mountains all around.

And a tarmaced old railway line cycle track!!
The Voie Vert. Starts at Remiremont goes up to Bussang.

Some nice cheap camping too.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby tatanab » 12 Mar 2017, 7:30am

PDQ Mobile wrote:And a tarmaced old railway line cycle track!!
The Voie Vert. Starts at Remiremont goes up to Bussang.

Some nice cheap camping too.
An amazingly quiet and superbly surfaced track it is too. That from somebody who usually avoids such things. That section puts you in reach of the climb up Ballon etc.
Camping - there are several campsites along that section. I was there about 3 years ago to see the Tour de France. I used Le Clos Martin at Ramonchamp. If you like simple then this is for you. Pretty much it is an old orchard with 2 token operated showers and basic other facilities. It is run from the house opposite where the lady charged me 4 Euros a night. Perfect for my taste, and more to the point - up on the main road is a boulangerie the likes of which you've seldom seen. All sorts of breads and pastries prepared in open view. Magnificent.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby bohrsatom » 12 Mar 2017, 7:32am

reckon Trier would be a good place to use as a base. It's an interesting city with plenty to do if you fancy a day off the bike, and from there you can either head up or downstream on the Mosel, or take a left at Konz and follow the Saar for a while.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby Audax67 » 12 Mar 2017, 9:17am

PDQ Mobile wrote:Upper Moselle area is nice.
Japanese Knotweed is a problem along the river.
Rural. Quiet. Pleasant. Friendly.
Wooded Vosges mountains all around.

And a tarmaced old railway line cycle track!!
The Voie Vert. Starts at Remiremont goes up to Bussang.

Some nice cheap camping too.


Heartily detested by every Audaxer that rides it. Last time I did it I counted 96 idiot barriers in its 30 km length, all of them made of wood and most of them somewhat hair-raising to negotiate. Tiring, too, getting back up to speed on a loaded bike. On good weekends it's also over-populated. Nice if you're not in a hurry, though.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby PDQ Mobile » 12 Mar 2017, 10:31am

Well I guess opinions differ. Two posts up someone really liked it!

I think "heartily detested" is probably poor use of English! False news!!

It is a delightful ribbon of super smooth tarmac through lovely varied valley scenery.
The barriers are opposing single wooden posts set horizonally. A chicane! On my recumbent rather fun to see just how fast I could flick though them.
Very fast!! Head brushing close!!!
Horses for courses though!
The barriers are to stop motor vehicles accessing the route so not without function.they also serve to mark road crossings for the cyclists. However dismounting is never necessary, unlike my local UK Sustrans route!!
Populated yes, near the villages but quieter on the long country sections.
People courteous, respectful, friendly; dog walkers mostly sensible
I have been up and down it many times. Sometimes in a hurry.
Better surfaced than the roads!
It's always enjoyable.
Picnic areas, shops, supermarkets, bakeries dotted along it's length.
Remiremont is a nice liitle place. Ditto Le Thillot.

And the Jeune Moselle is a delight of kingfishers, gigantic trout,and meandering reaches.

Shame about the Japanese Knotweed though. It is a serious and difficult problem (for the local Authority) in many places along the river bed.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby foxyrider » 12 Mar 2017, 10:42am

roberts8 wrote:We are thinking of driving down to the the River Moselle and doing day rides from a fixed base. I would guess the central section. Does anyone who knows the area have any suggestions. It looks like we could cycle one way and get a train or ferry back, is that an option?

Thanks in advance


On the German stretch (essentially Trier to Koblenz) there is a regular rail service that will happily take bikes. There are regular bridge crossings so doing an up and back ride as a loop is quite possible. Be aware though that the trains don't always follow the river directly.

There are plenty of side trips / excursions - castles, Roman stuff, pretty villages. It is very popular with Trekkers and at weekends can get quite congested around the 'honeypots'.

South from Trier the river forms the border with Luxembourg - scenery much the same down past Remich. No trains though as they head out into the Saarland and across towards Luxembourg city. Not been into the French zone but always thought it looked less interesting.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby Slowroad » 12 Mar 2017, 8:46pm

Sounds fab! Will have to do it once I've done the Rhine in a year or two! (Am commenting partly so I can find this thread again!)
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Re: Moselle area

Postby steady eddy » 13 Mar 2017, 3:16pm

Cicerone do a good guide to this.

The dreaded Japanese knotweed is along the Rhine too and along parts of the north Sea Route in Holland. It travels easily along river banks and other movement corridors. If you are bothered rinse your bike down in the street when you get home, not in your garden

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Re: Moselle area

Postby brynpoeth » 13 Mar 2017, 6:45pm

bohrsatom wrote:reckon Trier would be a good place to use as a base. It's an interesting city with plenty to do if you fancy a day off the bike, and from there you can either head up or downstream on the Mosel, or take a left at Konz and follow the Saar for a while.


Trier is the birthplace of Karl Marx, next year he will be 200 years old, lots of events are planned

A film about the young KM (1844-1848) has just been released so the year will be a bit longer

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Re: Moselle area

Postby goosegog » 14 Mar 2017, 4:28pm

If you are driving to the Moselle head for Remich (turn off motorway round Luxembourg at junction before the airport)
Luxembourg has the cheapest fuel, as Remich is on the border the road into town is full of petrol stations.
At bottom of road turn right at lights for the esplanade alongside river. For a 1 centre holiday I too would recommend Trier.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby roberts8 » 14 Mar 2017, 5:49pm

Again this forum has come up with the goods.
Thanks for all your good advise and a cicerone guide is on order. Looks like Trier will be our base so will look at airbnb.

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Re: Moselle area

Postby bohrsatom » 14 Mar 2017, 9:35pm

In my earlier post I mentioned taking a trip along the Saar. A good reason for this is to visit the small town of Saarburg which has a very pretty square lined with cafes, restaurants and ice cream shops. However the most important attraction is the 20m waterfall in the heart of the town which is really unique and well worth the ride:

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BTW in addition to the Cicerone there is a Bikeline Moselradweg guide in English which you might want to purchase, although in my opinion both books aren't worth the money. Not sure where you are based/work but I was able to borrow both from the City of London library.

Here is the Crazyguyonabike journal from our trip along the Saar, Mosel and Rhine last year: https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=tS&doc_id=17982