cycling in france
cycling in france
what you must or mustn't do
You can't use headsets or headphones while cycling
All children under the age of 12 must wear helmets while cycling
The law - non-assistance à personne en danger You have to assist someone in need
The drink-driving limit is 0.5mg/ml even for cyclists
You can cycle through some red lights.This is a particularly new law in Paris, introduced in 2015.
if you cycle in France, you need to make sure that your bike is properly equipped: it must have a white light at the front and a red one at the back, a bell with a 50-metre range and pedals with orange reflectors. If you're tempted to avoid traffic by swerving onto the pavement don't - only children under 8 are allowed to do that. And don't use your mobile phone and cycle at the same time or you could be fined €35!
https://www.thelocal.fr/20180522/the-laws-in-france-you-need-to-know-about
You can't use headsets or headphones while cycling
All children under the age of 12 must wear helmets while cycling
The law - non-assistance à personne en danger You have to assist someone in need
The drink-driving limit is 0.5mg/ml even for cyclists
You can cycle through some red lights.This is a particularly new law in Paris, introduced in 2015.
if you cycle in France, you need to make sure that your bike is properly equipped: it must have a white light at the front and a red one at the back, a bell with a 50-metre range and pedals with orange reflectors. If you're tempted to avoid traffic by swerving onto the pavement don't - only children under 8 are allowed to do that. And don't use your mobile phone and cycle at the same time or you could be fined €35!
https://www.thelocal.fr/20180522/the-laws-in-france-you-need-to-know-about
Re: cycling in france
Couple of questions:
The white light at the front/red at rear - do they have to be actually fitted or can they be in a pannier (as in e.g. http://www.lezyne.com/product-led-sport-microrear.php that quick fit with the stretchy rubber things).
Also, would "headsets" include bone conducting versions (where you still apparently hear noises around you).
The link you gave required a subscription so I could not investigate in the article itself.
Ian
The white light at the front/red at rear - do they have to be actually fitted or can they be in a pannier (as in e.g. http://www.lezyne.com/product-led-sport-microrear.php that quick fit with the stretchy rubber things).
Also, would "headsets" include bone conducting versions (where you still apparently hear noises around you).
The link you gave required a subscription so I could not investigate in the article itself.
Ian
Re: cycling in france
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"If you assume that the laws in France are just like the ones back home, you might be in for a nasty surprise. You've been warned.
OK, OK, we’ve all heard of the absurd French laws that make the viral rounds every now and again.
Yes, you can marry dead people but you can't name your pig Napoleon, nor kiss someone on a train platform. Officially at least.
But those laws aren’t particularly relevant for the average Joe.
Instead, here’s a collection of laws in France that you really should know, laws that are typically a little different to the rest of the world, and that you might benefit from knowing.
You have to assist someone in need
Did you know you have a “duty to rescue” someone in danger in France? And did you know that if you deliberately fail to help someone in danger, you risk five years in prison and a fine of €75,000?
The law - non-assistance à personne en danger - made headlines in 1997 after Princess Diana’s fatal car crash in Paris. There was an investigation into whether the nine photographers at the scene had a duty to help or not by calling an ambulance.
The rules are quite complicated as to what constitutes danger and what constitutes aid, but essentially it boils down to the fact that you’re obliged to help someone in imminent danger if you are able to, and if helping doesn’t put you in danger.
For example, if you see a fire, you should call the fire brigade. Failure to do so would be considered failing in your duty to rescue.
But if someone was drowning, you’re not legally expected to jump in the water to save the person.
The Princess Diana memorial in Paris. Photo: AFP
Internet downloading
If you download a film or any other file illegally to your computer and the French authorities spot it, you may find yourself receiving a warning letter from the French government through the post. Every year, French civil servants employed to enforce this HADOPI law for protecting intellectual property online, send out thousands of these letters. If you are then caught doing it two more times within a year, you could face a fine of up to €1,500.
The first warning will be sent out by email and the second by letter (if you are caught illegally downloading for a second time within six months). The third letter, which will be sent out if you are caught for a third time in 18 months will warn you that you face legal proceedings.
Noise at night
In France, making too much noise - described in legal terms as "causing an abnormal disturbance to the surroundings that is repetitive, intense and lasts a long time" is illegal.
At night time, the offending noise is called tapage nocturne and applies to any noise which is unusually disturbing. The best thing to do if you can't sleep because of your noisy neighbours and they couldn't care less about your complaints, is to call the police. The antisocial noisemakers could be fined up to €180. Worth knowing, especially if the anti-social noise is coming from you.
Taking kids out of school
All school children in France between the ages of 6-16 must go to school. While no parent has yet been fined for taking their child out of class to go on holiday, children in primary and secondary school (not the maternelle for 3 to 6-year-olds because it is not officially compulsory although most children go to it) cannot skip class unless they are ill, have family problems or other pressing issues that their teacher has been warned about.
However, if a pupil is absent too many times, the school director can choose to go through the courts. If the parents are found guilty, they face a fine of up to €375.
Getting married
It's a leftover from an antiquated law, but if you fall in love with a French person and want to get hitched, you might want to know about it just in case: parents in France (or if there aren't any, the closest of kin) are still legally allowed to oppose the wedding of their child. This actually happened a few years ago when a father managed to stop his child from tying the knot with a transexual person.
Proving your identity
If you are subject to an identity check in France and police must have reason to subject you to one, then you'll need to prove you are in France legally. According to the official government website a foreigner "must always be in possession of the necessary papers authorizing their presence in France". That could be a passport, a residency permit or a visa.
These ID checks can only take place in public areas.
According to the government website a foreigner, who is not in possession of the necessary ID papers, may be taken to the local police station and "be detained for the purpose of verifying his right to stay".
What to do after a car accident
If you’re unfortunate enough to get in a car accident in France, there are several laws that you should know.
As mentioned above, remember it’s your legal duty to help injured people if it is safe to do so. This includes calling the emergency services.
You are also obliged to wear a safety vest and put out a warning triangle to slow other cars, both of these items are legally supposed to be in your car (more info on this below).
You will have to fill out an accident form on the site (as will everyone else involved in the crash), and it will likely be in French. You can get an English copy here, which some experts recommend you have at the ready at all times.
Make sure you get these documents right the first time, matters can quickly get complicated if you change them.
Lastly, take these forms to your respective insurance provider.
There’s a lot more information about having an accident on the French roads here.
Give way to the right while driving
Here’s a complicated one, made further complicated by the fact that sometimes you don’t actually have to give way to the right.
In short: If you’re driving and there’s a vehicle trying to join or cross the road to your right, then you’re obliged to let them in.
Keep an eye out for the signpost on the right, this means you have to give priority to the right.
Even roundabouts, especially in smaller towns across France, can often have la priorité a droite.
Now, many roundabouts are more like the rest of the world, where you give priority to anyone already in the roundabout (in other words, give priority to the left).
These roundabouts are marked like this (see left).
Remember, there are a lot of accidents in France where people don’t give priority to the right - and if you’re to blame, you’ll have committed a refus de priorité. You’ve been warned!
This site explains the law in more detail (and in English).
The drink-driving limit is 0.5mg/ml
In France, you are allowed a maximum of 0.5mg/ml of alcohol per litre in your blood. This is stricter than in the UK, where it is 0.8mg/ml, but not nearly as strict as other countries like Sweden, which has a zero tolerance approach to drink driving.
To be honest though, the French don’t take the law that seriously. A survey in 2014 showed that 29 percent of respondents admitted to driving with more than the legal limit of alcohol in their system.
The limit is the same for cyclists too!
Safety equipment in your vehicle
Under French law, all cars, including those registered abroad, must carry a reflective safety vest that is accessible without getting out of the car and a warning triangle that must be placed behind the vehicle.
The idea is to cut down on the chances of getting run over in the case the car breaks down. On-the-spot fines of €135 are handed out if the equipment is missing.
You can cycle through some red lights
This is a particularly new law in Paris, introduced in 2015. The idea: If you can see the sign (below), then you can cycle through a red light.
Essentially, the signs are only there if there aren’t any roads to the right, meaning you won’t be cutting anyone off. But beware, getting caught going through any other red light can end up in fines.
Other road rules to consider
You can't use headsets or headphones while cycling, riding a scooter, or driving
All children under the age of 12 must wear helmets while cycling
All scooter and motorbike riders must wear gloves
And if you cycle in France, you need to make sure that your bike is properly equipped: it must have a white light at the front and a red one at the back, a bell with a 50-metre range and pedals with orange reflectors. If you're tempted to avoid traffic by swerving onto the pavement don't - only children under 8 are allowed to do that. And don't use your mobile phone and cycle at the same time or you could be fined €35!
You've got to pay your taxes
The tax man in France is a serious man and should be treated with the utmost respect.
And he doesn’t take lightly to people not coughing up at tax time.
For minor offences, you may get away with a slap on the wrist, sure. But serious offences can lead to interest charges of 4.8 percent a year and a penalty of up to 80 percent of the underpaid tax.
If you commit blatant fraud, you can expect substantial fines and potential prison sentences.
More info here.
You can't throw your cigarettes on the ground or let your dog defecate on a pavement
You would be forgiven for thinking this wasn't actually a law in Paris if you take a look around the streets on an average day.
It might sound like common sense, but you risk a fine of €68 if you're caught littering, micturating in the streets, letting your dog defecate on the pavement or tossing your cigarette butts on the streets of Paris.
Now, most Parisians ignore these rules and a total of 350 tonnes of cigarette butts are collected each year in the French capital.
But the City Hall has started rolling out an anti-civility brigade to crack down on these misbehaving smokers and the fines are becoming more and more common.
"If you assume that the laws in France are just like the ones back home, you might be in for a nasty surprise. You've been warned.
OK, OK, we’ve all heard of the absurd French laws that make the viral rounds every now and again.
Yes, you can marry dead people but you can't name your pig Napoleon, nor kiss someone on a train platform. Officially at least.
But those laws aren’t particularly relevant for the average Joe.
Instead, here’s a collection of laws in France that you really should know, laws that are typically a little different to the rest of the world, and that you might benefit from knowing.
You have to assist someone in need
Did you know you have a “duty to rescue” someone in danger in France? And did you know that if you deliberately fail to help someone in danger, you risk five years in prison and a fine of €75,000?
The law - non-assistance à personne en danger - made headlines in 1997 after Princess Diana’s fatal car crash in Paris. There was an investigation into whether the nine photographers at the scene had a duty to help or not by calling an ambulance.
The rules are quite complicated as to what constitutes danger and what constitutes aid, but essentially it boils down to the fact that you’re obliged to help someone in imminent danger if you are able to, and if helping doesn’t put you in danger.
For example, if you see a fire, you should call the fire brigade. Failure to do so would be considered failing in your duty to rescue.
But if someone was drowning, you’re not legally expected to jump in the water to save the person.
The Princess Diana memorial in Paris. Photo: AFP
Internet downloading
If you download a film or any other file illegally to your computer and the French authorities spot it, you may find yourself receiving a warning letter from the French government through the post. Every year, French civil servants employed to enforce this HADOPI law for protecting intellectual property online, send out thousands of these letters. If you are then caught doing it two more times within a year, you could face a fine of up to €1,500.
The first warning will be sent out by email and the second by letter (if you are caught illegally downloading for a second time within six months). The third letter, which will be sent out if you are caught for a third time in 18 months will warn you that you face legal proceedings.
Noise at night
In France, making too much noise - described in legal terms as "causing an abnormal disturbance to the surroundings that is repetitive, intense and lasts a long time" is illegal.
At night time, the offending noise is called tapage nocturne and applies to any noise which is unusually disturbing. The best thing to do if you can't sleep because of your noisy neighbours and they couldn't care less about your complaints, is to call the police. The antisocial noisemakers could be fined up to €180. Worth knowing, especially if the anti-social noise is coming from you.
Taking kids out of school
All school children in France between the ages of 6-16 must go to school. While no parent has yet been fined for taking their child out of class to go on holiday, children in primary and secondary school (not the maternelle for 3 to 6-year-olds because it is not officially compulsory although most children go to it) cannot skip class unless they are ill, have family problems or other pressing issues that their teacher has been warned about.
However, if a pupil is absent too many times, the school director can choose to go through the courts. If the parents are found guilty, they face a fine of up to €375.
Getting married
It's a leftover from an antiquated law, but if you fall in love with a French person and want to get hitched, you might want to know about it just in case: parents in France (or if there aren't any, the closest of kin) are still legally allowed to oppose the wedding of their child. This actually happened a few years ago when a father managed to stop his child from tying the knot with a transexual person.
Proving your identity
If you are subject to an identity check in France and police must have reason to subject you to one, then you'll need to prove you are in France legally. According to the official government website a foreigner "must always be in possession of the necessary papers authorizing their presence in France". That could be a passport, a residency permit or a visa.
These ID checks can only take place in public areas.
According to the government website a foreigner, who is not in possession of the necessary ID papers, may be taken to the local police station and "be detained for the purpose of verifying his right to stay".
What to do after a car accident
If you’re unfortunate enough to get in a car accident in France, there are several laws that you should know.
As mentioned above, remember it’s your legal duty to help injured people if it is safe to do so. This includes calling the emergency services.
You are also obliged to wear a safety vest and put out a warning triangle to slow other cars, both of these items are legally supposed to be in your car (more info on this below).
You will have to fill out an accident form on the site (as will everyone else involved in the crash), and it will likely be in French. You can get an English copy here, which some experts recommend you have at the ready at all times.
Make sure you get these documents right the first time, matters can quickly get complicated if you change them.
Lastly, take these forms to your respective insurance provider.
There’s a lot more information about having an accident on the French roads here.
Give way to the right while driving
Here’s a complicated one, made further complicated by the fact that sometimes you don’t actually have to give way to the right.
In short: If you’re driving and there’s a vehicle trying to join or cross the road to your right, then you’re obliged to let them in.
Keep an eye out for the signpost on the right, this means you have to give priority to the right.
Even roundabouts, especially in smaller towns across France, can often have la priorité a droite.
Now, many roundabouts are more like the rest of the world, where you give priority to anyone already in the roundabout (in other words, give priority to the left).
These roundabouts are marked like this (see left).
Remember, there are a lot of accidents in France where people don’t give priority to the right - and if you’re to blame, you’ll have committed a refus de priorité. You’ve been warned!
This site explains the law in more detail (and in English).
The drink-driving limit is 0.5mg/ml
In France, you are allowed a maximum of 0.5mg/ml of alcohol per litre in your blood. This is stricter than in the UK, where it is 0.8mg/ml, but not nearly as strict as other countries like Sweden, which has a zero tolerance approach to drink driving.
To be honest though, the French don’t take the law that seriously. A survey in 2014 showed that 29 percent of respondents admitted to driving with more than the legal limit of alcohol in their system.
The limit is the same for cyclists too!
Safety equipment in your vehicle
Under French law, all cars, including those registered abroad, must carry a reflective safety vest that is accessible without getting out of the car and a warning triangle that must be placed behind the vehicle.
The idea is to cut down on the chances of getting run over in the case the car breaks down. On-the-spot fines of €135 are handed out if the equipment is missing.
You can cycle through some red lights
This is a particularly new law in Paris, introduced in 2015. The idea: If you can see the sign (below), then you can cycle through a red light.
Essentially, the signs are only there if there aren’t any roads to the right, meaning you won’t be cutting anyone off. But beware, getting caught going through any other red light can end up in fines.
Other road rules to consider
You can't use headsets or headphones while cycling, riding a scooter, or driving
All children under the age of 12 must wear helmets while cycling
All scooter and motorbike riders must wear gloves
And if you cycle in France, you need to make sure that your bike is properly equipped: it must have a white light at the front and a red one at the back, a bell with a 50-metre range and pedals with orange reflectors. If you're tempted to avoid traffic by swerving onto the pavement don't - only children under 8 are allowed to do that. And don't use your mobile phone and cycle at the same time or you could be fined €35!
You've got to pay your taxes
The tax man in France is a serious man and should be treated with the utmost respect.
And he doesn’t take lightly to people not coughing up at tax time.
For minor offences, you may get away with a slap on the wrist, sure. But serious offences can lead to interest charges of 4.8 percent a year and a penalty of up to 80 percent of the underpaid tax.
If you commit blatant fraud, you can expect substantial fines and potential prison sentences.
More info here.
You can't throw your cigarettes on the ground or let your dog defecate on a pavement
You would be forgiven for thinking this wasn't actually a law in Paris if you take a look around the streets on an average day.
It might sound like common sense, but you risk a fine of €68 if you're caught littering, micturating in the streets, letting your dog defecate on the pavement or tossing your cigarette butts on the streets of Paris.
Now, most Parisians ignore these rules and a total of 350 tonnes of cigarette butts are collected each year in the French capital.
But the City Hall has started rolling out an anti-civility brigade to crack down on these misbehaving smokers and the fines are becoming more and more common.
Re: cycling in france
Psamathe wrote:Couple of questions:
The white light at the front/red at rear - do they have to be actually fitted or can they be in a pannier (as in e.g. http://www.lezyne.com/product-led-sport-microrear.php that quick fit with the stretchy rubber things).
Also, would "headsets" include bone conducting versions (where you still apparently hear noises around you).
The link you gave required a subscription so I could not investigate in the article itself.
Ian
I just copy/pasted the relevant bits no more or less. maybe some one else living there will elaborate
one that was strange , you can marry dead people
Re: cycling in france
As with lots of laws in France they're taken with a pinch of sel
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so how does pedal reflectors work with spds?
from watching the TDF where they have no lights, no reflectors, walkmans and radio headsets plus I rarely see them all stop for an accident. a police jobsworth would have a field day
from watching the TDF where they have no lights, no reflectors, walkmans and radio headsets plus I rarely see them all stop for an accident. a police jobsworth would have a field day
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crazydave789 wrote:so how does pedal reflectors work with spds?
I've toured in France more than a few times, l don't think the orange reflector on pedals requirement is taken any more seriously there than it is here.
On one of those trips it included cycling from the French border to Bilbao, l wore no helmet and it is supposedly compulsory in Spain outside urban areas. I saw various policemen and was overtaken by police cars, l was never stopped and it was never remarked upon.
I think mercalia likes reading the various regulations of such things but with little practical experience.
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Ben@Forest wrote:crazydave789 wrote:so how does pedal reflectors work with spds?
I've toured in France more than a few times, l don't think the orange reflector on pedals requirement is taken any more seriously there than it is here.
On one of those trips it included cycling from the French border to Bilbao, l wore no helmet and it is supposedly compulsory in Spain outside urban areas. I saw various policemen and was overtaken by police cars, l was never stopped and it was never remarked upon.
I think mercalia likes reading the various regulations of such things but with little practical experience.
or just presented here for those who do to comment? no need to put me down I think? or maybe you credit me with the same intelligence as your self
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mercalia wrote:Ben@Forest wrote:I've toured in France more than a few times, l don't think the orange reflector on pedals requirement is taken any more seriously there than it is here.
On one of those trips it included cycling from the French border to Bilbao, l wore no helmet and it is supposedly compulsory in Spain outside urban areas. I saw various policemen and was overtaken by police cars, l was never stopped and it was never remarked upon.
I think mercalia likes reading the various regulations of such things but with little practical experience.
or just presented here for those who do to comment? no need to put me down I think? or maybe you credit me with the same intelligence as your self
No offence intended. I was just trying to point out that such long lists of rules and regs are no more onerous than here!
Re: cycling in france
Priority to the right is frequently suspended - almost always outside towns - sign is yellow square inside white square.
Restoration of priority to the right is the same sign with a black line through the yellow square.
Priority to the right is usually encountered in towns - I look for give way or stop lines and if they aren't there I assume that I don't have priority.
The filter system for cyclists seems to work well - unfortunately when a similar system was mooted for the UK many commentators presented it as cyclists being allowed to ignore red lights.
Restoration of priority to the right is the same sign with a black line through the yellow square.
Priority to the right is usually encountered in towns - I look for give way or stop lines and if they aren't there I assume that I don't have priority.
The filter system for cyclists seems to work well - unfortunately when a similar system was mooted for the UK many commentators presented it as cyclists being allowed to ignore red lights.
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Does anybody have experience of the white car on a blue square background traffic sign . Its on main roads and I believe its automobiles only , yet there are lorries etc on such roads . I have searched the internet and cannot find a definitive description. There were some roads I wished to use cycling back from the Pyrenees with these symbols . In the end I chickened out and did a much longer route . I did find this , but it seems as clear as mud https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/th ... nce.63984/
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DaveGos wrote:Does anybody have experience of the white car on a blue square background traffic sign . Its on main roads and I believe its automobiles only , yet there are lorries etc on such roads . I have searched the internet and cannot find a definitive description. There were some roads I wished to use cycling back from the Pyrenees with these symbols . In the end I chickened out and did a much longer route . I did find this , but it seems as clear as mud https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum/th ... nce.63984/
This means that cycles are banned on these roads as there is too much of a risk from heavy and fast-moving traffic.
I know as I was escorted off from such a road while touring having failed to understand the sign.
Re: cycling in france
Does anybody know if the bone conducting headphones would be included in the disallowed list - given that you can still hear the world around you (apparently).
Ian
Ian
Re: cycling in france
No idea, but if a peeler decides they're taboo I wouldn't quibble.
White car on blue square = rules as for a motorway but speed limit 90 kph (soon to be 80 kph) if no central divider or 110 kph if central divider & 2 lanes either side. And even if there is no such sign, central divider & 2 lanes either side = no bikes allowed.
Priorité à droite applies in Germany as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it applied in Spain & Portugal too.
IIRC kids under 12 having to wear a helmet applies within town limits only.
After sunset you have to wear a shiny weskit out of town, but not in. Police are not necessarily aware of the latter.
Horses aren't allowed on cycle tracks, but riders ignore this with impunity. Beware of montagnes de merde.
White car on blue square = rules as for a motorway but speed limit 90 kph (soon to be 80 kph) if no central divider or 110 kph if central divider & 2 lanes either side. And even if there is no such sign, central divider & 2 lanes either side = no bikes allowed.
Priorité à droite applies in Germany as well. I wouldn't be surprised if it applied in Spain & Portugal too.
IIRC kids under 12 having to wear a helmet applies within town limits only.
After sunset you have to wear a shiny weskit out of town, but not in. Police are not necessarily aware of the latter.
Horses aren't allowed on cycle tracks, but riders ignore this with impunity. Beware of montagnes de merde.
Have we got time for another cuppa?
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Under the Vienna Convention, cycles travelling internationally don't need pedal reflectors; they just need an efficient brake, a bell (no effective range specified!), rear red lamp and reflector, and a front white or yellow lamp. Not sure I'd want to argue the toss with a Gendarme, mind, and obviously this doesn't affect national laws on plastic hats & hi-vis.