Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

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Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby SA_SA_SA » 10 Jul 2018, 11:47am

I discovered the Mersey ferries don't run till later on Sundays, which is inconvenient if have stepped off an Irish Sea ferry arriving at 6.30am :) so I got the train but....

although advised by local cyclist (at Seacombe) to goto Birkenhead Park (I think) possibly because it was on route of the then diversion from the ferry port (gone now due to new bridge) but I recognised Hamilton Square first and thinking as an all underground station it would have huge lifts, went there...... but the lifts to the line under the mersey are tiny, hard to find and required luggage removal and bike held vertically: similarly when I got of at James St the same tiny lift: ( :

so I presume it would have been better to use different stations (eg Birkenhead Park as suggested?) and Lime Street in order to get bigger lifts are avoid the need for lifts? Any local knowledge?
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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby in4time » 10 Jul 2018, 3:57pm

Ride to Conway Park Station, not too far from ferry, about 1.5 miles and there is a bigger lift there.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby SA_SA_SA » 10 Jul 2018, 8:21pm

Thanks, and where is best to get off in liverpool? :----

Lime street lower level?

(anywhere near pier head or on way to Leeds and liverpool canal start will do).
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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby crazydave789 » 13 Jul 2018, 3:50pm

cool you doing L-L then, I'm trying to get my brother to do it with me later this summer. I was thinking to bimbling up the shropshire union cross the mersey ditch and was wondering the best way as well.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby SA_SA_SA » 13 Jul 2018, 9:42pm

crazydave789 wrote:cool you doing L-L then, I'm trying to get my brother to do it with me later this summer. I was thinking to bimbling up the shropshire union cross the mersey ditch and was wondering the best way as well.

(was) Just cycling to the York Rally, last year cycled Liverpool to Colne on the canal, this year just to the outskirts of liverpool then more of mix of canal and roads. So far lime street seems the best place to get off.
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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby crazydave789 » 14 Jul 2018, 12:41am

SA_SA_SA wrote:
crazydave789 wrote:cool you doing L-L then, I'm trying to get my brother to do it with me later this summer. I was thinking to bimbling up the shropshire union cross the mersey ditch and was wondering the best way as well.

(was) Just cycling to the York Rally, last year cycled Liverpool to Colne on the canal, this year just to the outskirts of liverpool then more of mix of canal and roads. So far lime street seems the best place to get off.


I've done it by boat so quite fancied doing it by bike. maybe throwing the bike onto someones boat to help with wigan flight again.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby in4time » 14 Jul 2018, 3:13pm

Get off at James Street. Up in the lift to street level. Turn right down towards the river front. Walk over the n+ lanes road that stands between you and the river and you're good to go.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby SA_SA_SA » 15 Jul 2018, 8:01pm

in4time wrote:Get off at James Street. Up in the lift to street level. Turn right down towards the river front. Walk over the n+ lanes road that stands between you and the river and you're good to go.

But the platform lift in James Street is really small requiring panniers (of camping stuff) removal etc and bike held vertically: hence my desire to find somewhere with bigger lifts/ no lifts required.
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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby in4time » 17 Jul 2018, 3:07pm

Here y'go: Merseytravel contacts page.

https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/about-u ... ct-Us.aspx

That should help.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby Alan O » 17 Jul 2018, 4:42pm

SA_SA_SA wrote:
in4time wrote:Get off at James Street. Up in the lift to street level. Turn right down towards the river front. Walk over the n+ lanes road that stands between you and the river and you're good to go.

But the platform lift in James Street is really small requiring panniers (of camping stuff) removal etc and bike held vertically: hence my desire to find somewhere with bigger lifts/ no lifts required.

I exited at James Street just over a week ago, and it was even worse than that - the platform level lift was out of order. So I had to hump my (thankfully not heavily laden) bike up the first set of stairs to the main bigger lifts. Shame, because James Street is the ideal station for getting to the Pier Head end of the L-L canal.

Lime Street is the only other Liverpool station I've used with a bike, but I can't remember what the lifts are like - though I don't have any recollection similar to the tiny ones at James Street and at Hamilton Square, which tend to stick in the mind. Sorry I'm not much help (especially as a cycling Liverpool native).

The best thing to do, I think, is call Merseytravel and ask about the lifts at various stations - I've always found Merseytravel to be very helpful, and far more cycling friendly than most.

Another possible option is that cycling through the Queensway tunnel (the Birkenhead/old one) is allowed before 8am on a Sunday (between 1st April and 30th September inclusive) - see https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/tunnels ... fault.aspx. I think you'd have to be quite mad to do it, but I felt I had to mention it.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby RickH » 21 Jul 2018, 10:25pm

Lime St has a small lift up from the underground line. I don't think I've ever used it as I've often been soloing a tandem, getting a connection to/from Wigan, & have just used the escalators (apart from 5 or 6 stairs to initially get you up from the platform). The escalators are OK - I find bikes tend to roll into the steps rather than trying to roll off - and I've never had my use of them with a bike/tandem questioned.

I'm sure I've got off at James St a couple of times, once almost certainly with the tandem (& my sight impaired stoker), but I've absolutely zero recollection of how I got to street level but suspect I just used stairs/escalator if that is an option.

Also to be noted is that the L-L towpath is currently closed from Stanley locks to Spencer's Lane, just north of the M57, while they repair a collapsed culvert below the canal on that stretch.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby Alan O » 22 Jul 2018, 12:01pm

RickH wrote:Also to be noted is that the L-L towpath is currently closed from Stanley locks to Spencer's Lane, just north of the M57, while they repair a collapsed culvert below the canal on that stretch.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notice/1 ... pool-canal does suggest that the towpath is closed, but a cycling friend has been riding it this week and says it's open apart from a small section near Melling (at the northern end of the affected section) which is easy to bypass. I suspect the "Is Towpath Closed? Yes" must mean there's some closure of the towpath, but the entire affected section does not appear to be closed.

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Re: Crossing the Mersey on Sunday/ by train

Postby SA_SA_SA » 10 Aug 2018, 11:54am

I think Birkenhead Park sounds best on Wirral side as is before tunnel section, so (apparently according to web) has ramp down to track level.

For the Liverpool side I found this site
https://www.disabledgo.com/access-guide/liverpool-city-council/moorfields-station
which says the lifts in Moorfield are 10cm longer at 140cm than at the other 3 loop stations which I think is just about long enough for my 26in wheel bike to wheel in with bars turned and frame at an angle.
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