Anyone toured near Chamonix?

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Thehairs1970
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Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby Thehairs1970 » 26 Sep 2018, 9:14pm

Ok. Despite the lack of replies, :( , I have a kind of plan.

Train to Chamonix, descend back down, tour around Annecy etc, back to car, take physics geek son to see CERN.

Has anyone descended down the Chamonix Valley? There's obviously the big A road but we won't be doing that. There also seems to be a parallel D route that looks ok but what's it like in 'real life'?

Anyone?

Martyn

MrsHJ
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby MrsHJ » 29 Sep 2018, 8:16am

Sorry, I've skied it a lot but not cycled. However I'm sure there are lots of local cycle clubs -I always find asking the locals on bikes is a safer method than asking pedestrians! As I'm sure you know D roads should be ok but I'd maybe avoid C roads or undesignated roads in the mountains. What route does cycle.travel suggest-looks like the V61 cycle route? I like using the link from cycle.travel to see the actual road on google maps photo thingie. CERN should be fab.

Thehairs1970
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby Thehairs1970 » 29 Sep 2018, 9:43am

Thanks. I thought there would be loads of people available to offer advice about this area but replies to my posts have been few. The V61 is what I am looking at. I'm also trying to find out about the trains up to Chamonix but that's been difficult to find. We cycle as a family with two teenagers so going up the road isn't on our list!

Thanks for your help. Martyn

brynpoeth
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby brynpoeth » 29 Sep 2018, 11:10am

Try searching these fora, might have been mentioned before
And wait a bit, some answers might come along :wink:
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott

Thehairs1970
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby Thehairs1970 » 29 Sep 2018, 11:18am

I've learned something anyway. Fora is plural of forum. :lol:

MrsHJ
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby MrsHJ » 29 Sep 2018, 11:37am

Thehairs1970 wrote:Thanks. I thought there would be loads of people available to offer advice about this area but replies to my posts have been few. The V61 is what I am looking at. I'm also trying to find out about the trains up to Chamonix but that's been difficult to find. We cycle as a family with two teenagers so going up the road isn't on our list!

Thanks for your help. Martyn


Cycle.travel has a good key hidden at the top right of the page so you can see what you'll be riding vis a vis bike lanes and separated bike trails. Rhone Alpes region was, I thought (I was there two weeks ago), pretty good with bike trail standards and signing.

brynpoeth
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby brynpoeth » 29 Sep 2018, 11:44am

Thehairs1970 wrote:I've learned something anyway. Fora is plural of forum. :lol:

Or not, some people think "fora" only refers to several squares in ancient Rome, it was mentioned elsewhere on these forae :?
..
There are more than a million posts here, plenty are not about cycling, you can learn six incredible things before breakfast :wink:
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott

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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby nirakaro » 29 Sep 2018, 11:57am

'Fora' or 'forums' is arguable – fora as a Latin neuter plural, forums as a generic English plural. 'Forae', as I'm sure you know, is out-and-out wrong – that would be a first declension feminine plural of a non-existent singular noun 'fora'.
Sorry not to get that in before breakfast – it's a good half-century since I did any Latin, so it took a bit of dredging up.

randonneur
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby randonneur » 29 Sep 2018, 1:53pm

Its been a few years since I last visited the Chamonix Valley by cycle, and in the days before apps and owing detailed maps on my first visit did use the main road up across the viaduct, not too pleasant climbing up, but the descent on a Sunday morning was fine. On subsequent visits I used the D road which from memory was perfectly good this would be about 20 years ago.

Thehairs1970
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby Thehairs1970 » 6 Oct 2018, 4:44pm

Thanks for those who have tried to help. I am really surprised by the lack of questions on the forum regarding the alps. I was expecting there to be more.

Jezrant
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby Jezrant » 6 Oct 2018, 5:52pm

The problem isn't the lack of knowledge about the Alps on this forum but rather the narrowly focused nature of your queries. If you search for the Alps, rather than specifically Annecy or Chamonix, you will find dozens of threads over the years.

In one of your previous threads, I vaguely recall you were looking for suggestions for a cycle tour around Annecy without any cols. After the ride around the lake, that's about it. I'm afraid there's also not much to say about riding from Chamonix to Geneva. The worst bits are getting out of Chamonix and the dreary last bit from Annemasse onwards. The departmental roads parallel to the Arve and the motorway aren't bad, but it's not exactly a quiet bucolic ride in the countryside.

Most people who want to go cycling in the Alps are interested in riding over cols. They're not going all the way to the Alps to look for flat easy roads.

If you're looking for quieter roads with nice scenery somewhere near Chamonix and Geneva without too much hard work, cycling around Haute Savoie between the Arve and the Swiss border is lovely. Decide how many miles and how much climbing you can manage, and then you can fairly easily work out a few circuits for yourself without much worry. It's not a big region.

As the trip seems to be Cern-centric, I'd urge you to take a good look at cycling on the Swiss side of Lake Geneva (Léman). The canton of Vaud is stuffed with quiet little back-roads, beautiful scenery both around the vineyards and looking across the lake to the Alps, and no big cols if you stay close to lake at the eastern end.

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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby sanderton » 30 Oct 2018, 6:02pm

From Chamonix, ride through the village centre of Les Houches. The road becomes a narrow lane and drops down through the woods, crosses the horrendous dual lane fast road, and heads for Servoz. From there, you can drop down to Passy. Its nice and virtually traffic free.

keithg
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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby keithg » 31 Oct 2018, 11:54am

There’s some very good riding to be had around Annecy with several good climbs (Col de la Forclaz among others) and nearby is Lac du Bourget which is better, quieter and prettier with even better riding, Col de Chat, Grand Colombier etc.
Annecy and Aix les Bains have excelllent cycle paths for tootling as well as good access from town to the rural roads.

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Re: Anyone toured near Chamonix?

Postby lvabd » 6 Nov 2018, 11:28am

Hello

from there-ish. Agree with Sanderton, and avoid the D13 road (it's very busy, and locals drive crazy fast on it). From Servoz head north on D143 (steep climb), and use the landrover track to drop to Passy.
Back to the other side via Combloux (nice village)
Very crowded around Annecy in the summer, avoid commuting hours, but on the plus side, tons of cyclists too, so people are kinda use to them.
And avoid Annemasse area at all costs. Ugly, super busy, not at all cycle friendly, also quite known for petty crimes.