What better than doing the coast to coast?

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What better than doing the coast to coast?

Postby Onefourseven » 18 Jan 2019, 7:27pm

Hello, this is my first post having only got into cycling last year. I've had a go at few things to test the water like a time trial, track racing (got lapped more than once) and a triathlon . I've got some holidays I need to take soon so what better than doing the coast to coast?
Problem is I/We are doing it in March and we want to make a week of it by cycling the return journey, so as the topic title says...have many of you cycled both ways and/or in winter? Am I mental and any tips? I'm aware that east to west is likely to be hard work due to the wind. Thanks.
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Re: Who has done this?

Postby armadillo » 18 Jan 2019, 8:18pm

Which coast to coast?

(I think the Devon one would be my choice in March!)

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby Onefourseven » 18 Jan 2019, 8:42pm

Ah sorry I'm northern, when we talk about c2c we assume it's St Bees to Tynemouth or a version of it.

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby foxyrider » 18 Jan 2019, 10:23pm

Onefourseven wrote:Ah sorry I'm northern, when we talk about c2c we assume it's St Bees to Tynemouth or a version of it.


Go one way with the wind then train back!

Doesn't make you less of a rider, just a sensible rider.
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Re: Who has done this?

Postby Onefourseven » 18 Jan 2019, 11:04pm

foxyrider wrote:
Onefourseven wrote:Ah sorry I'm northern, when we talk about c2c we assume it's St Bees to Tynemouth or a version of it.


Go one way with the wind then train back!

Doesn't make you less of a rider, just a sensible rider.


Thanks, I think my body will point my brain to the railway station when I get there, I liked the idea of four days cycling though.

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby HobbesOnTour » 19 Jan 2019, 1:23am

From https://cycle.travel/route/c2c
"Four days is standard. Three days is fine for the experienced cyclist, but the second day is gruelling with a succession of beastly climbs. Consider taking five days or more, and really enjoying the countryside. Only the superhuman will attempt two or (shudder) one days."


Based on that a week to do a return trip might be optimistic.

If this is your first tour, I'd suggesting erring on the side of caution and not overextend yourself.

What will you do for accommodation? How loaded will you be? Camping will mean heavier gear than hotels/ B&Bs.
Cycling day after day, even for only 4 or 5 days can take a lot out of you if you're not used to it, especially at that time of the year.
Cold and wet are your enemies.Shorter days too mean that you can be under more pressure to make your destination before nightfall.

No reason a one way trip can't be done enjoyably with a bit of foresight & planning and some decent gear. `

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby Oldjohnw » 19 Jan 2019, 6:14am

I'm taking a week to do the Hadrian's Wall Cycleway. I'm taking a week because:

I'm cycling from the Borders to Hexham
Train to Carlisle/Whitehaven
Cycle west to east then train back to the borders.
I want to spend some time looking at various parts of the wall: that is part of cycle touring to me.
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Re: Who has done this?

Postby Tiberius » 19 Jan 2019, 7:02am

Onefourseven wrote: I'm aware that east to west is likely to be hard work due to the wind.


Maybe.

I did my own version of C2C in late May last year. Morecambe to Scarborough (as in west to east) Head wind all the way.

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby Onefourseven » 19 Jan 2019, 2:50pm

HobbesOnTour wrote:From https://cycle.travel/route/c2c
"Four days is standard. Three days is fine for the experienced cyclist, but the second day is gruelling with a succession of beastly climbs. Consider taking five days or more, and really enjoying the countryside. Only the superhuman will attempt two or (shudder) one days."


Based on that a week to do a return trip might be optimistic.

If this is your first tour, I'd suggesting erring on the side of caution and not overextend yourself.

What will you do for accommodation? How loaded will you be? Camping will mean heavier gear than hotels/ B&Bs.
Cycling day after day, even for only 4 or 5 days can take a lot out of you if you're not used to it, especially at that time of the year.
Cold and wet are your enemies.Shorter days too mean that you can be under more pressure to make your destination before nightfall.

No reason a one way trip can't be done enjoyably with a bit of foresight & planning and some decent gear. `


Hmm not sure what to do now. Sounds like four successive days of 60 miles plus is extreme for a first attempt, three days of 40 miles plus and train back not particularly taxing . The plan was to stay on the west side of Hartside on the way there and the east side on the way back thereby travelling light and doing the hard graft in the morning so as not to be tempted to walk up the climb at the end of each day.

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Re: What better than doing the coast to coast?

Postby thirdcrank » 19 Jan 2019, 3:04pm

If you search on Hadrian there's quite a lot about this route.

This from former forum member Manx Cat may be interesting as it involves similar timescales to yours although it's now a bit dated. (Unfortunately, Manx Cat left the forum after being hurt by some comment about the IoM.)
viewtopic.php?p=121395#p121395

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby HobbesOnTour » 19 Jan 2019, 3:12pm

Onefourseven wrote:Hmm not sure what to do now. Sounds like four successive days of 60 miles plus is extreme for a first attempt, three days of 40 miles plus and train back not particularly taxing . The plan was to stay on the west side of Hartside on the way there and the east side on the way back thereby travelling light and doing the hard graft in the morning so as not to be tempted to walk up the climb at the end of each day.


A shakedown ride or 2 will tell you a lot of what you need to do. Pick a place 60 miles away, cycle there, stay overnight and cycle back on the bike and carrying the gear you plan to use.

For me, touring at that time of the year is very weather dependant. Wind/Rain/Cold have to be suffered if big mileage is expected. Shorter days gives more flexibility to avoid the worst. Or more time to recover! :D Doubly so if camping.

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby foxyrider » 19 Jan 2019, 3:34pm

Tiberius wrote:
Onefourseven wrote: I'm aware that east to west is likely to be hard work due to the wind.


Maybe.

I did my own version of C2C in late May last year. Morecambe to Scarborough (as in west to east) Head wind all the way.


But that's May, the wind blows the other way in the winter!
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Re: What better than doing the coast to coast?

Postby Paulatic » 19 Jan 2019, 4:23pm

Am I alone here?
I find it very distracting when the terms C2C ( sea to sea) or coast to coast are used quite wildly. Unless otherwise stated and especially when referring to crossing in the Northern half of England can we please stick to what is normally recognised.
https://www.cyclinguk.org/cycle/coast-c ... ternatives

My understanding is the OP is intending to ride the C2C :D In March which cold be cold, sunny and very pleasant. Or blowing a hoolie, hailstones, or six foot drifts on Hartside. The weather is so variable in March I would hate to endure 60 mls just because the accommodation is booked ahead. I certainly wouldn’t consider camping but I’d make myself aware of who is going to be open for business and book ahead on the day only.
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Re: Who has done this?

Postby PaulaT » 19 Jan 2019, 5:28pm

Oldjohnw wrote: I want to spend some time looking at various parts of the wall: that is part of cycle touring to me.


That's very much my approach to touring too. For me, the joy of touring on a bicycle (or tricycle) is that there's no barrier between you and the people you meet along the way. It's a journey not a race :D

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Re: Who has done this?

Postby mjr » 19 Jan 2019, 5:54pm

armadillo wrote:Which coast to coast?

(I think the Devon one would be my choice in March!)

Too hard. I'm hoping to do the Cornish one! Devoran to Porth-summat.
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