Looking for Shops (placename)

[Mick F]

I posted this in 2012 when I was a blogger with Cycle Seven.
https://cycleseven.org/going-shopping

I think I've done them all now, including two in Devon.
Are there any more anywhere?
I can't seen to find any, so how can I search?
Pour over maps?
Is there any way to search mapping?

List I've done so far:

Devon:
Chipshop
Moorshop

Cornwall:
Bray Shop
Congdon’s Shop
Budge’s Shop
Box’s Shop
Shop
Tippett’s Shop
Gummow’s Shop
Taylor Shop
Inche’s Shop
Barkla Shop

PS
Notice that the Devon ones are all one word, and the Cornish ones are separate words.

[foxyrider]

Can't open your link, can you give a quick explanation of the search premise?

[Mick F]

Dunno why you can't open it.
Seems fine for me.

Here's the first section copied and pasted.

Going Shopping
In my continuing effort to ride every road in Cornwall, the other day, I decided to ride to the Shops.
“Shops as well as roads?” I hear you all ask, “How many shops are there? There must be millions!”
“No, not shops, silly – Shops!”
In Cornwall we have Shops. These are places/hamlets/villages almost invariably at cross-roads and were originally real shops. In rural locations they would have been blacksmiths shops mending plough-shares and shoeing horses, and in the mining districts they would have sold provisions and tools. Some of these shops would take local currency or tokens – often called chips or scrip. These places would have flourished in the industrial days when folk never strayed from their own village.
I dug out a road atlas, I Googled and I Wiki’d, and produced a short list:
Chipshop
Taylor Shop
Bray Shop
Congdon’s Shop
Barkla Shop
Box’s Shop
Gummow’s Shop
Budge’s Shop
Shop
Then, I tried to work out a route to take them all in whilst finding new roads to cycle on. I turned out to be completely impossible to do in a day, so I had to divide it up, and on Tuesday I set out to the north.
First stop wasn’t far – only 4miles away – into Devon to Chipshop and it's unusual in that it’s in Devon and as far as I know, it’s the only Shop outside of Cornwall.
OS co-ordinates SX436751.

[PDQ Mobile]

Surely, even in Cornwall, there must be one of these, The Knockin Shop!

http://maps.apple.com/?lsp=9902&auid=70 ... %20England

[foxyrider]

Dunno why you can't open it.
Seems fine for me.

Here's the first section copied and pasted.

Going Shopping
In my continuing effort to ride every road in Cornwall, the other day, I decided to ride to the Shops.
“Shops as well as roads?” I hear you all ask, “How many shops are there? There must be millions!”
“No, not shops, silly – Shops!”
In Cornwall we have Shops. These are places/hamlets/villages almost invariably at cross-roads and were originally real shops. In rural locations they would have been blacksmiths shops mending plough-shares and shoeing horses, and in the mining districts they would have sold provisions and tools. Some of these shops would take local currency or tokens – often called chips or scrip. These places would have flourished in the industrial days when folk never strayed from their own village.
I dug out a road atlas, I Googled and I Wiki’d, and produced a short list:
Chipshop
Taylor Shop
Bray Shop
Congdon’s Shop
Barkla Shop
Box’s Shop
Gummow’s Shop
Budge’s Shop
Shop
Then, I tried to work out a route to take them all in whilst finding new roads to cycle on. I turned out to be completely impossible to do in a day, so I had to divide it up, and on Tuesday I set out to the north.
First stop wasn’t far – only 4miles away – into Devon to Chipshop and it's unusual in that it’s in Devon and as far as I know, it’s the only Shop outside of Cornwall.
OS co-ordinates SX436751.

Explained and understood!

Have you tried the local library, they often have access to old maps which may show what you are after.

[whoof]

Depends how picky you are being. There's plenty of biSHOPs i.e Bishop's Stortford.

You could while away a hour or so looking through this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _England#S
No point in doing a similar search in Wales as shop has a vowel in it.

[Mick F]

You could while away a hour or so looking through this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _England#S

Towns.
The trouble is, some of these places aren't even hamlets, let alone villages.
One or two I've been to are only cross-roads or even just a single house or a farm.

From my memories of definitions.
Hamlet = Collection of dwellings.
Village = Larger collection of dwellings and with some facilities - perhaps pub, post office, shop(s), school etc.
Town = Large collection of dwellings and all of the above plus a market. Has a town council headed by a mayor.
City = Huge collection of dwellings. All of the above plus has lord mayor. Usually has a cathedral too.

[whoof]

You could while away a hour or so looking through this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _England#S

Towns.
The trouble is, some of these places aren't even hamlets, let alone villages.
One or two I've been to are only cross-roads or even just a single house or a farm.

From my memories of definitions.
Hamlet = Collection of dwellings.
Village = Larger collection of dwellings and with some facilities - perhaps pub, post office, shop(s), school etc.
Town = Large collection of dwellings and all of the above plus a market. Has a town council headed by a mayor.
City = Huge collection of dwellings. All of the above plus has lord mayor. Usually has a cathedral too.

List of English Villages by County
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _by_county
edit
and Hamlets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _by_county

[foxyrider]

You could while away a hour or so looking through this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... _England#S

Towns.
The trouble is, some of these places aren't even hamlets, let alone villages.
One or two I've been to are only cross-roads or even just a single house or a farm.

From my memories of definitions.
Hamlet = Collection of dwellings.
Village = Larger collection of dwellings and with some facilities - perhaps pub, post office, shop(s), school etc.
Town = Large collection of dwellings and all of the above plus a market. Has a town council headed by a mayor.
City = Huge collection of dwellings. All of the above plus has lord mayor. Usually has a cathedral too.

Those definitions give a general guide but I know of places which by those definitions are a Hamlet but are in fact Villages, Villages that are actually towns and so on.
For example, Bonsall in the Peak District was a town, with many shops, businesses and so on but due to contraction of local industry has declined to the point of now qualifying only as a Village. Similarly, Selby in North Yorks has a Minster like York but has only ever been a town. There are many examples around the country, Villages that have been abandoned now existing as maybe a single farm, others sharing a church for one reason or another and a good number that are the size of some smaller towns.

Planners like to think it's all to do with population numbers but that rarely works in the real world. Historically scholars have used this simple system
Group of dwellings without a place of worship - Hamlet
Group of dwellings with a place of worship and named Parish - Village
Group of dwellings with a market- Town
A City, in the UK, will have a Cathedral church but it's not that simple, it must have a charter too - see Selby above.

There are Hamlets with pubs and shops, villages without either, towns without markets etc.

Phew

[Cyril Haearn]

There are many pairs of villages, Great and Small Snoring etc

In some cases the Small has become bigger than the Great, you could collect such aberrations

Place names are fascinating

[Cyril Haearn]

You could visit all train stations open in Cornwall, then all closed stations, must be a few of those

Likewise with police stations (Cop Shops), the old police house is quite a common name I think because Officers used to Reside

And all the Book Shops!

[thelawnet]

There must be lots of ways to quickly produce such a list.
Here's one:

http://www.gazetteer.org.uk

There are two Shops in Cornwall and one in Devon.

Not sure if you will accept Mineshope.

[Mick F]

List of English Villages by County
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _by_county
edit
and Hamlets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _by_county

Both incomplete and as such, non-reliable.

There must be lots of ways to quickly produce such a list.
Here's one:
http://www.gazeteer.org.uk

Won't open for me. Safari can't find the server.

[thelawnet]

List of English Villages by County
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _by_county
edit
and Hamlets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _by_county

Both incomplete and as such, non-reliable.

There must be lots of ways to quickly produce such a list.
Here's one:
http://www.gazeteer.org.uk

Won't open for me. Safari can't find the server.

Ah. Seems I can't spel.

Now corrected.

[Mick F]

Ah.
That works, thanks.

Trouble is, if I search for "Shop" as the end of the place-name, I get where I've already been ................... except for Shop in Devon between Holsworthy Beacon and Stibb Cross ........................ except I think I've actually been through it.

I'll have to go through my rides records and search.
Back later!