Looking for Shops (placename)

[Mick F]

Yes, I have.
20th Sept 2014.

I must have done them all.

[Cyril Haearn]

When you have visited everything in Cornwall, may I suggest moving to Yorkshire?

[Mick F]

Grief!

I may have been born in North Wales, but I'm from Lancastrian stock.
I speak with a Wigan-ish accent.

I can get away with venturing into Devon, and I can get away with being sort of Cornish (having lived here more than half my life), but Yorkshire??????????

[Mick F]

Driving on the A38 towards Liskeard the other day, I saw that the junction is at Island Shop.
No mention of it on the map, and no mention of it in the other direction.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.44135 ... 312!8i6656

Looking on older maps, I've found it, but it's all one word - Islandshop.
You can see the smithy on the map too. I'll have to go and ride there. It's another one for the list!

[Mick F]

I did Island Shop yesterday.
38miles from home via Island Shop, and to Torpoint, crossed the ferry into Devonport and then to Wetherspoon's for a well-earned couple of pints, then up to the station for the train home.

A grand day out even though I got soaked a couple of times - inside and out!

[rjb]

Couple more shops for you to visit
Morchard Bishop in Devon
and Compton Bishop in Somerset.

And there are several more with Bishop in the name eg Bishops Lydeard near Taunton.
Happy hunting

[Mick F]

Found another one!
Luke's Shop.
Near St Newlyn East and White Cross, on the LEJOG route.
Been through a few times but nothing is there to realise its name.

[Mick F]

Just had a PM from Morzedec telling me about Lobb's Shop, just south of St Austell on the road down to Mevagissey.

I keep a road map on my computer and "ink in" the roads I've been on as I'm trying to ride everywhere in Cornwall. My map shows that i've been through from St Austell down through to Mevagissey at some time or another, but at this moment, I don't know when.

With some reasearch, I should be able to find the GPX file.

Thank you Morzedec!

[Mick F]

Found it.

9th June 2015

Heading north towards St Austell.
I did 56miles that day. Mrs Mick F was doing a course in Roche and I took my bike in the back of the car and sort of hitching a lift.
Did some "new roads" of Cornwall, and hitched a lift back home afterwards.

[Bmblbzzz]

I posted this in 2012 when I was a blogger with Cycle Seven.
https://cycleseven.org/going-shopping

I think I've done them all now, including two in Devon.
Are there any more anywhere?
I can't seen to find any, so how can I search?
Pour over maps?
Is there any way to search mapping?

List I've done so far:

Devon:
Chipshop
Moorshop

Cornwall:
Bray Shop
Congdon’s Shop
Budge’s Shop
Box’s Shop
Shop
Tippett’s Shop
Gummow’s Shop
Taylor Shop
Inche’s Shop
Barkla Shop

PS
Notice that the Devon ones are all one word, and the Cornish ones are separate words.

That first one is great! As the Saxon "chip" is the origin of the English "shop" (and "cheap"), it's effectively "Shop shop"!
(The derivation in this particular case might be different, I don't know.)

[Jdsk]

I posted this in 2012 when I was a blogger with Cycle Seven.
https://cycleseven.org/going-shopping

I think I've done them all now, including two in Devon.
Are there any more anywhere?
I can't seen to find any, so how can I search?
Pour over maps?
Is there any way to search mapping?

List I've done so far:

Devon:
Chipshop
Moorshop

Cornwall:
Bray Shop
Congdon’s Shop
Budge’s Shop
Box’s Shop
Shop
Tippett’s Shop
Gummow’s Shop
Taylor Shop
Inche’s Shop
Barkla Shop

PS
Notice that the Devon ones are all one word, and the Cornish ones are separate words.

That first one is great! As the Saxon "chip" is the origin of the English "shop" (and "cheap"), it's effectively "Shop shop"!
(The derivation in this particular case might be different, I don't know.)

Chipshop seems to have come from the use of chips to pay workers in tokens that could only be used in restricted outlets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipshop
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/h ... es-6526498

Jonathan

[Nearholmer]

https://gazetteer.org.uk/results.php?ty ... t&pageno=7

Have a look in there.

[Jon Lucas]

Shop in a place name is found only in the Celtic parts of the country, due no doubt to the different way that settlements developed there. In the Saxon and Viking parts of England, villages developed around a nucleus where all that was needed for the village to function were, so villages tended to be named from landscape features that locate them rather than a specific function. In the Celtic areas, settlement took place along trackways as more isolated farms rather than as nucleated villages, with modern villages being a later development. So a village shop may often have been in an isolated position along a trackway, sometimes some distance from the nearest village, serving the farms around it, and thus would have acquired its own name, which would have included Shop.

In Wales shop is found as 'siop', not in place names but as building names in isolated positions. Where my partner grew up in Anglesey, there is an isolated house a mile outside the modern village, that has the name Siop-y-Lon (the shop on the lane), which has always fascinated me precisely because it is so isolated from any other population. It also happens to be on what I think is the most beautiful lane for cycling along in Britain.

[Bmblbzzz]

Were these shops all necessarily selling things or could some of them have been workshops?

[Jdsk]

Shop is derived from the Middle English shoppe, shoppe and is Germanic rather than Celtic. It meant shed or barn and didn't necessarily have anything to do with buying or selling.

Siop in Welsh is a loanword from English shop.

I'd guess that places in Wales with names based on siop tend to have been named more recently than places in England with names based on shop.

Jonathan