Touring on an electric bike?

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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby landsurfer » 23 Sep 2019, 2:48pm

reohn2 wrote:
landsurfer wrote:Touring on an electric bike ..... or motoring as it's known ......
:lol:


I'm joking .... honest .... :lol:

There'll come a time when ............


And I will embrace it when it comes. Just done the Whitehaven to Tynemouth CTC with 2 compatriots with electric bikes. One used it all the way, the other changed his front wheel only when it got nasty... Whinlatter, Hartside etc ... They both completed the ride .
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby reohn2 » 23 Sep 2019, 2:52pm

landsurfer wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
landsurfer wrote:Touring on an electric bike ..... or motoring as it's known ......
:lol:


I'm joking .... honest .... :lol:

There'll come a time when ............


And I will embrace it when it comes. Just done the Whitehaven to Tynemouth CTC with 2 compatriots with electric bikes. One used it all the way, the other changed his front wheel only when it got nasty... Whinlatter, Hartside etc ... They both completed the ride .

Then why take p*** out of those that already have 'embraced' it?
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby landsurfer » 23 Sep 2019, 3:01pm

reohn2 wrote:Then why take p*** out of those that already have 'embraced' it?


We have a wildly different sense of humours you and I ... What i see as a mild joke you find the deepest offence from.
Why don't we just leave each other alone ....
And stop boring the moderators to death .... :)
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby reohn2 » 23 Sep 2019, 3:09pm

landsurfer wrote:
reohn2 wrote:Then why take p*** out of those that already have 'embraced' it?


We have a wildly different sense of humours you and I ... What i see as a mild joke you find the deepest offence from.
Why don't we just leave each other alone ....
And stop boring the moderators to death .... :)

It's not humourous to face people with,by pretending to joke about what they're acutely aware of.

You've consistently termed e-bikes as 'motorbikes' or similar on various threads on the forum,which also isn't funny.
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby Oldjohnw » 23 Sep 2019, 3:53pm

Anyone calling (not in jest) a legal ebike a motorbike understands neither ebikes nor motorbikes.
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby horizon » 23 Sep 2019, 3:59pm

reohn2 wrote:
landsurfer wrote:
reohn2 wrote:Then why take p*** out of those that already have 'embraced' it?


We have a wildly different sense of humours you and I ... What i see as a mild joke you find the deepest offence from.
Why don't we just leave each other alone ....
And stop boring the moderators to death .... :)

It's not humourous to face people with,by pretending to joke about what they're acutely aware of.

You've consistently termed e-bikes as 'motorbikes' or similar on various threads on the forum,which also isn't funny.


I think there is sensibility on both "sides" of this argument so a little humour (given and taken) would go a long way. I've posted on another thread (viewtopic.php?f=55&t=132066&start=45) some of my thoughts on this which hopefully go some way to explain why there is some antipathy to e-bikes amongst cyclists. This thread isn't the place for it - it's about the interesting and practical aspects of using an e-bike for touring.

I've done a couple of local camping trips recently to take advantage of the weather and it's been useful comparing what I did (load weight, hills, distance etc) with how I might have done it on an e-bike.
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby reohn2 » 23 Sep 2019, 4:09pm

horizon wrote:....... This thread isn't the place for it - it's about the interesting and practical aspects of using an e-bike for touring.

I thoroughly agree!
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby LittleGreyCat » 28 Sep 2019, 9:42pm

Now contemplating (but not at all seriously) doing a fully supported LEJOG/JOGLE with two bikes; steam power for the flatter bits and electric to get me over the biggest hills.

Well, not very seriously but I did vaguely consider a two bike trip with an MTB for the hills and a road bike for the flatter bits.

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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby Jamesh » 28 Sep 2019, 9:55pm

The hills really aren't that bad. Berriedale and helmsdale hills were the worst but do able or walk able!

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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby Mike_Ayling » 28 Sep 2019, 11:01pm

A large number of people posting on CycleBlaze are riding e bikes and seldom complain about not finding a charging point.

The Crazyguy has a separate ghetto for e bike journals on his site but I don't go there much so i don't what the experience is there.

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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby Vorpal » 29 Sep 2019, 11:01am

A couple of campgrounds I've been at in Norway recently, had little huts in the middle of the tent camping are with charging points for electronics, e-bikes, etc. Both places included everything in the price of a tent space, one person & a tent was 140 NOK at one place and 150 NOK (£12.50 and £13.50 respectively). One of them only had two outlets, but it was fine because there was never more than one in use at a time, though when I was was there, the campsite was mostly long distance walkers, plus a few caravaners.
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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby goosegog » 29 Sep 2019, 4:32pm

I have just completed my first tour with a pedelec. I tour Germany and Austria and have seen an increase in E bikes over the past 5 years. Last year I estimated the bikes I saw 80% of them were pedelecs that's 4 in every 5 bikes. I saw a lot of them passing me. My epiphany came when I visited a church up a 3km climb , I had to walk and on pausing for breath an older lady passed me on her pedelec as if she was cycling on the flat. I did my research and bought a Cube with 500ah Bosch system. it is brilliant I no longer have to walk up hills and its good to have assistance against headwinds. I have not noticed it any faster than my normal bike but my average speed has increased from 8mph to 10mph.

As I use hotels I charge the battery in the room, most alpine hotels have a ski room that is used for bikes in summer these have numerous power points(boot warmers) so you need to carry a charger. As my charger came with UK lead I bought a euro 2 pin lead to aviod carrying adapters.

Starting off the range indicator shows about 50 miles put if I keep it on the Eco setting it can go up to 90 miles. On Turbo the range drops to 20miles. Just by stopping for lunch the battery can recover. I do not see the point of carrying a spare battery its quite heavy and charging 2 low batteries overnight with 1 charger is complicated. I also saw hotels with outside charging points it looked like a special lead is required hired from the hotel?There was some gasthofs offering E bike charging points

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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby merrymac » 29 Sep 2019, 4:56pm

Having completed the west half of EuroVelo 12, in June I started on the eastern half from France to Norway to celebrate my 70th Birthday. The first 6 days along the N Sea coast of France, Belgium and into the Netherlands were into a 20-30 mph headwind. On June 27-28 we had record temperatures in Netherlands of 40+C. Enough I said
I found a good e-bike shop in Friesland and part-exed my Jamis tourer for a 2 year-old second-hand Dutch-made Sparta. On it I easily covered 100+ kms daily on the overnight charge with only 2-3 lunchtime top-ups in cafes, supermarkets or bike shops. I never looked back and1,900 kms later I stopped in Sweden when winter arrived two weeks ago. (Getting the e-bike home was a different matter, requiring a whole new thread here and a lot of time and money)

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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby mercalia » 29 Sep 2019, 9:12pm

can you charge an ebike at an ecar point?

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Re: Touring on an electric bike?

Postby Vorpal » 30 Sep 2019, 9:02am

mercalia wrote:can you charge an ebike at an ecar point?

E-bikes usually charge on normal electrical sockets. Electric cars can only 'trickle' charge on a normal 13 amp socket, so most people use dedicated charging points with higher current. E-bikes cannot normally use those.
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