al_yrpal wrote:reohn2 wrote:Al
It's nothing your Ortler.?.but you're comparing eggs with apples.
The R and M uses exactly the same Bosch drive and control as the Ortler, it doesnt even offer a more advanced or more powerful model like the CX. For the extra 2 grand you probably get stronger wheels, better hubs and headset and a fancy drive system that might prove troublesome compared with a simple tried and tested derriallier. The R and M does give you a couple of nice racks and fat tyres, but thats not too relavent for touring. What I am trying to point out is that good quality suitable EBs are available for only a battery cost more than a decent quality conventional tourer. One shouldnt be put off by a £4.5 k price tag, it just isnt necessary. Thats in contrast to the BSO EBs offered by QVC etc which probably wouldnt be reliable for touring. A close look at a £1500 Ortler, Cube or similar would be convincing.
It DOES have the Bosch CX motor,it also offers a choice of drivetrain:-10sp deraileur,Vario or Rohloff the latter two with Gates CF belt drive
The bike is a purpose built,heavy duty,load lugging,short wheel base cargo bike,that can take 60kg on the rear and 5kg up front on purpose built specific steel racks bolted to a frame built for that application,wheels are heavy duty 26inch shod with Big Apple 2.15inch tyres,it also has a purpose built centre stand to handle such heavier duties.
The 2019 model has the two removable batteries in the frame tubes not like the one in the link.
The bike is customisable with extras for different applications,drivetrain already mentioned,there's also folding passenger foot pegs,handlebar and rack seat options.The rack is made to take child seats,huge specific pannier bags that in themselves are very adaptable as shown in the review,such adaptations and specifics don't come cheap and whilst your Otler can go some way toward such a bike as the R&M Multicharger,it can't ever be what the R&M is,it's simply not built for those specifics.
Chalk v cheese,Ford Transit v Ford Fous,are comparisons that spring to mind.
To emphasise(yet again),I'm NOT criticising your bike or any in the Otler range,but there's no comparison between the two models of bike in question because they arent built for the same application