EU VISAs after Brexit

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Psamathe
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Jdsk wrote:And on "EU visas after Brexit", or nearly... I've seen it suggested that those last minute applications for EHICs will be managed as early applications for GHICs.

We'll see.

Jonathan

It will be interesting to see which countries are and which are not included in the "Global" variant of the card. Reflecting the "Global" our politicians have been selling the electorate or the reality of the UK's new place in the world.

Ian
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

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Jdsk wrote:Anyone who favours an unplanned hit to economic turnover of this magnitude should acknowledge the effects on those beneficial components of public expenditure. They might think that it's worthwhile, I don't. But ignoring them turns this into rhetoric and fantasy rather than anything worthwhile.

And, as above, if we want a greener economy we should discuss that, and how to achieve it, and what will need to be done to deliver it. It's very important (is anything more important?) but it's a very different matter from what I think we'll have caused by Leaving.

Jonathan


I recently read that the hit to GDP to be expected from Brexit will be comparable to a bad recession.
The market crash of ten years ago was bad, but made worse for public expenditure and the worst-off by the savageries of austerity. We should be able to cope with the slowdown in growth rather better than that. The Tories used the failure of the money markets as an excuse to carry through their regressive policies.
I often think that our economies' need for continuing growth lest stasis brings disaster as being like a bicycle, which needs to keep moving or topple. We need to learn how to do a track stand, or at least put a foot down.
A world economy which does not invove continuous expansion will be difficult to achieve, but there are limits to growth, and surely we are reaching them.
As you suggest, nothing is more important.
It's the same the whole world over
It's the poor what gets the blame
It's the rich what gets the pleasure
Isn't it a blooming shame?
Psamathe
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

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I wonder if there are threads on EU travel forums discussing UK Visas after Brexit?

According to
https://www.gov.uk/apply-to-come-to-the-uk wrote:If you want to visit the UK
Apply for a Standard Visitor visa to visit the UK for up to 6 months. For example:

for a holiday or to see family and friends

and the "Standard Visa page explains
https://www.gov.uk/standard-visitor-visa wrote:...
How long you can stay
You can usually stay in the UK for up to 6 months (£95 fee).

If you were an EU citizen thinking about a holiday and you get the choice of UK with the grief and £95 fee vs any EU country you like without and admin, no delays, no forms and no fees, which would you chose?

Ian
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Citizens of EU member states will be able to enter UK with ID cards until 1.10.21. From that date they will need to show passports. It's highly unlikely tourist visas will be introduced unless the EU requires them from UK citizens. Work visas, of course, will be required from yesterday. It's possible UK will introduce its own version of ETIAS, but frankly I think it's unlikely this year.
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EU visa to commence 2022. §7 valid for 3 years. This on top of the 90 day rule. To all uk residents.
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Psamathe wrote:If you were an EU citizen thinking about a holiday and you get the choice of UK with the grief and £95 fee vs any EU country you like without and admin, no delays, no forms and no fees, which would you chose?

albal1 wrote:Work visas, of course, will be required from yesterday.

Apart from the additional hassle and cost to the potential visitor from EU Member States the new barriers to free movement of labour will have an enormous effect on the hospitality sector because of the number of foreign workers. And the new points-based system will be a particular problem.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

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Visas from 2022? First I've heard of it. Are you not thinking of ETIAS, which is a registration scheme rather than a visa as such?
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I think and hope that ETIAS is to our advantage.

All your immigration checks are done in advance and so you should be able to pass through passport control more quickly. Over 3 years, €7 (or whatever) isn't too bad if it makes things easier.
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albal1 wrote:EU visa to commence 2022. §7 valid for 3 years. This on top of the 90 day rule. To all uk residents.

Have you got a source, please?

Thanks

Jonathan
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

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Jdsk wrote:
albal1 wrote:EU visa to commence 2022. §7 valid for 3 years. This on top of the 90 day rule. To all uk residents.

Have you got a source, please?

Thanks

Jonathan


Presumably talking about ETIAS as mentioned above.

Ah, visas. Pages of discussions await us. Visa, visa free, visa exempt, visa on arrival, tourist card, etc, etc. A pedants charter. This used to be a happy hunting ground for one such on the old Lonely Planet forum.
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"Ah, yes, I remember it well."

Jonathan
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Since 1 January at least ten visitors from the UK have been denied entry to the Netherlands. Because of Covid visitors from outside of the EU are only admitted for urgent reasons, and that now also applies to visitors from the UK.
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

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I only tour for 2 to 3 weeks at 1 time so no worries about a visa time wise
the problem I have is during the 90 days in 180 will I still have the freedom
to do multiple border crossings as I had planed ?
Also my European health card is valid until December 2021 is this not now invalid since
(Cough) we became a sovereign nation and lost control ?
Jdsk
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Astrobike wrote:I only tour for 2 to 3 weeks at 1 time so no worries about a visa time wise
the problem I have is during the 90 days in 180 will I still have the freedom
to do multiple border crossings as I had planed ?

TTBOMK a single visa will cover you for all countries in the Schengen Area.

Astrobike wrote:Also my European health card is valid until December 2021 is this not now invalid since
(Cough) we became a sovereign nation and lost control ?

TTBOMK EHICs issued before 1/1/2021 will be valid, but I can't find much in writing and I don't know if cover will still be the same as it was.

Jonathan
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Jdsk wrote:....
Astrobike wrote:Also my European health card is valid until December 2021 is this not now invalid since
(Cough) we became a sovereign nation and lost control ?

TTBOMK EHICs issued before 1/1/2021 will be valid, but I can't find much in writing and I don't know if cover will still be the same as it was.

Jonathan

Presumably only until the expiry date printed on the particular card (my assumption, no specialist knowledge).

Ian
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