EU VISAs after Brexit

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thirdcrank
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby thirdcrank » 27 Nov 2020, 10:23pm

Brexit: How travel to the European Union from 2021 will change

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/b ... d=msedgntp

Jdsk
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Jdsk » 27 Nov 2020, 10:26pm

That's a good wide convenient summary.

(Simon Calder is often excellent.)

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby colin146 » 30 Nov 2020, 4:05pm

Crazy, going back in time 40 years and for what?

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Oldjohnw » 30 Nov 2020, 5:32pm

colin146 wrote:Crazy, going back in time 40 years and for what?


To take back control. You must have heard!
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby colin146 » 30 Nov 2020, 6:58pm

Yes I forgot that................ But seriously it’ll take a generation to sort out this self inflicted mess. (Short reply to avoid anti Brexit rant)

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby st599_uk » 1 Dec 2020, 9:06am

The UK press seem to be confirming the rules, although some are mistakenly calling them new.

The Schengen treaty was signed in 1985, the third country rules have been known for over 30 years.
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Jdsk » 1 Dec 2020, 10:58am

st599_uk wrote:The UK press seem to be confirming the rules, although some are mistakenly calling them new.

The Schengen treaty was signed in 1985, the third country rules have been known for over 30 years.

Yes, I've seen that "misunderstanding".

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby simonhill » 1 Dec 2020, 3:38pm

...........but the spin being put on it by certain elements is that we (the UK) are being penalised by the EU. I think many thought we would get preferential treatment because we are British damn it!

Woe is me.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby millimole » 2 Dec 2020, 7:59am

Taking back control of the borders seems to be a two way thing.
Europe can take control over its borders too.
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby simonhill » 3 Dec 2020, 11:13am

I posted this on another post, it is also proper to here.

I frequently travel to countries that have all sorts of entry requirements. The bottom line nowadays is that airlines carry out first level immigration checks at check-in time. If required by the destination, you often have to show (eg) return ticket, visa, money, accommodation, etc. If you turn up in the country without the required stuff, then it is the airlines responsibility to take you out of the country and they get a steep fine. This means that they are often fairly strict, working from a standard (IATA?) database of requirements for each country.

Initially, I don't suppose that ferries or airlines to Europe (or the local Immigration Officers) will bother about this, but if they end up with some passenger returns, plus big fines, then things could change. We all know the hassles that over officious check-in staff can cause, this could be a charter for them.

The list of requirements for third party citizens to enter the EU is fairly long.

I s'pose you could say that carrying out third country immigration checks on UK soil is taking back control. Huzzah!

nirakaro
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby nirakaro » 3 Dec 2020, 11:37am

simonhill wrote:The list of requirements for third party citizens to enter the EU is fairly long.

Where can that list be found?


Traction_man
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Traction_man » 3 Dec 2020, 3:29pm

some further inf here, from BBC, 'Travel after Brexit: How will it affect my holidays to the EU?'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46627083

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby DevonDamo » 3 Dec 2020, 3:53pm

For those of you whose grandparents were born on the Irish mainland, you can claim Irish citizenship, get a second passport and avoid all this.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby st599_uk » 3 Dec 2020, 4:25pm

Also, if your family lost it's German citizenship due to forced action in the 30s, you can reclaim it. (Otherwise it's 7 years of residence and A-level knowledge of German)
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