EU VISAs after Brexit

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Oldjohnw » 19 Nov 2020, 5:55pm

al_yrpal wrote:Whatever impediments the evil empire places on us we should respond in kind.... Before the EU there werent any as far as I am aware except for the Communist bloc and even there you just went.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby rualexander » 19 Nov 2020, 6:50pm

st599_uk wrote:

If you want to stay longer, you can apply to an individual country for a longer tourist visa.



Apart from France which has been discussed previously, do you have any evidence that this is in fact possible just now or will be possible going forward?
I have looked at Spain and Italy and both state that no such visa exists.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Mick F » 19 Nov 2020, 6:59pm

What do you want to go abroad for?
Once or twice a month or so, we cross the river into England. That's as far as we would want to go. :wink:
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Cyril Haearn » 19 Nov 2020, 6:59pm

Mick F, you have been abroad to more queer and distant countries than most of us. I have been to about 15, cycled in about 12, two of which no longer exist :wink:

As for visae in future: just like This cv Madness, nobody knows :?
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby st599_uk » 19 Nov 2020, 7:03pm

Such visas exist, I've had them for work. Each country has its own requirements and there's never a guarantee of getting one.

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/ ... as-GI.aspx
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Jdsk » 19 Nov 2020, 7:09pm

And for Italy:
https://vistoperitalia.esteri.it/home/en

But there isn't a suitable visa for UK nationals AND UK resident AND >90 days AND tourism.

Apart from the hassle and the cost note the inconsistencies, as above.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby rualexander » 19 Nov 2020, 7:28pm

st599_uk wrote:Such visas exist, I've had them for work. Each country has its own requirements and there's never a guarantee of getting one.

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/ ... as-GI.aspx


Your link is for Spanish residence visas and your personal experience is of work visas, neither circumstance is relevant long stay tourism.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby st599_uk » 19 Nov 2020, 8:04pm

Even as an EU citizen under FOM, you had to apply after 3 months.

You can apply for a Visa class D (Residence) for tourism, but you will have to prove you have medical insurance, income and attest you won't work. See https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blog ... ays/#third
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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby nirakaro » 19 Nov 2020, 9:05pm

al_yrpal wrote: Before the EU there werent any as far as I am aware except for the Communist bloc and even there you just went.Al

Nope. When I took a train to Istanbul, I needed transit visas for both Yugoslavia and Bulgaria. This involved a trip to London, and leaving my passport overnight at both embassies. Ah, those were the days... :shock:

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby al_yrpal » 19 Nov 2020, 9:08pm

nirakaro wrote:
al_yrpal wrote: Before the EU there werent any as far as I am aware except for the Communist bloc and even there you in went.Al

Nope. When I took a train to Istanbul, I needed transit visas for both Yugoslavia and Bulgaria. This involved a trip to London, and leaving my passport overnight at both embassies. Ah, those were the days... :shock:


except for the Communist bloc read what I said! Got my visas at yhe border when I went to Yugoslavia in 1964. You just went.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Jdsk » 19 Nov 2020, 9:12pm

Yugoslavia wasn't part of any bloc. It was a founding member of and major influence on the non-aligned movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslavi ... Yugoslavia–Soviet_split
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby al_yrpal » 19 Nov 2020, 9:17pm

Yugoslavia was a Communist state. Marshall Tito. Not part of Russia, a collection if smaller countries.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby Jdsk » 19 Nov 2020, 9:21pm

Most of the countries in the Soviet bloc/ Warsaw Pact weren't "part of Russia" either.

And under Tito the constituent parts of Yugoslavia weren't countries, they were republics and provinces.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby rualexander » 19 Nov 2020, 9:33pm

st599_uk wrote:Even as an EU citizen under FOM, you had to apply after 3 months.

You can apply for a Visa class D (Residence) for tourism, but you will have to prove you have medical insurance, income and attest you won't work. See https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blog ... ays/#third


Nothing on that Nomadicmatt site makes me think there is any reasonably practical way of obtaining a long term tourism visa in a series of countries to allow travelling through Europe for a period of more than 3 months.
The visas referred to are residency visas and are awkward to obtain and may have various conditions attached.

It may be the case that even as an EU member state citizen strictly speaking the 3 months rule has always applied but in reality it hasn't, many northern European retirees have spent their winters in milder southern climes, many cycle tourists have spent months (more than 3) travelling throughout Europe, and as mentioned earlier, the yachting fraternity have cruised the med unhindered.
As an EU member state citizen, there was no real risk of sanction or deportation, but as a non EU member state citizen, things are very different.

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Re: EU VISAs after Brexit

Postby al_yrpal » 19 Nov 2020, 9:35pm

Jdsk wrote:Most of the countries in the Soviet bloc/ Warsaw Pact weren't "part of Russia" either.

And under Tito the constituent parts of Yugoslavia weren't countries, they were republics and provinces.

Jonathan


So what? Never needed visas when we thumbed to Istanbul and back in 1961.

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