Bice wrote:nsew wrote:He’s already pulled in over half a million dollars in donations and his political views are abhorrent. So I’ll pass. Has anyone found an interesting journey review on that site? “I woke up in this field with a picnic table (photo inserted), in an unremarkable town (photo inserted), had breakfast (photo inserted) packed my six panniers full of stuff (photo inserted) and spent the day riding through unremarkable scenery (photo inserted) to another field with a picnic table (photo inserted).” Repeat 7X or 14X
What's the source of abhorrent political views?
I have only just looked at this website. He seems a contrarian, libertarian, Linux user, open source enthusiast. I like his uncompromising, crap GUI website. You don't have to be a Proud Boy to be a bit concerned about big tech, Twitter censorship (Covid 'scepticism'?) etc. But is there worse?
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By Neil Gunton (neil) (admin) on Sun 1 Sep 2019 12:54 Edit in reply to #23 Reply (1) Relation | Link | Bookmark | Report Rating: (0)
"I don't support any violent group but that especially goes for white nationalist and anti-government groups such as the Proud Boys, Three Percenters, Patriot Prayer, Oath Keepers, etc. They are all the enemies of free speech and freedom in general"
I have watched interviews with members of the Proud Boys. They seemed like very reasonable people to me, expressing reasonable concerns about what is happening in this country when it comes to freedom of speech, especially with regard to the violence being perpetuated by Antifa. The Proud Boys and others are a response to that violence.
If you can point me to anywhere where someone representing The Proud Boys is saying anything that makes them "enemies of free speech and freedom in general", then I'd very much appreciate it. Everything I've seen about them points rather to the opposite. They are objecting to the increasingly fascist behavior of groups like the ironically-named Antifa.
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By Neil Gunton (neil) (admin) on Sun 1 Sep 2019 20:16 Edit in reply to #30 Reply Relation | Link | Bookmark | Report Rating: (0)
Ok, I'll help you out - here's Tim Pool talking to some Proud Boys. If you actually listen to what they say, they are not what they have been made out to be. "Far right", "Nazi", "white supremacist", listen to the video and tell me if these guys fit that mold. It's a guy's club with tongue in cheek hazing rituals and they go out and confront assholes like Antifa because they see Antifa as being marxists and anti-free-speech. I dunno, to me these just sound like regular guys who are fed up with the bullshit and being told that they are responsible for everything bad that happens in society. Hence the name, I guess. There are other similar videos, and in all of the ones I've seen, the Proud Boys members seem very reasonable and common sense. They aren't racist, they just aren't taking any
[inappropriate word removed] from the Antifa crowd, which I can respect.
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By Neil Gunton (neil) (admin) on Mon 2 Sep 2019 13:49 Edit in reply to #35 Reply (1) Relation | Link | Bookmark | Report Rating: Disagree (3)
"Neil, are you aware that the Proud Boys have extensive ties to white-supremacist groups? Do you really think their objective is simply to promote free speech, and not to normalize white supremacy?"
Prove it. I've posted lots of evidence that they are not racists or white supremacists, but rather just ordinary guys who are tired of being blamed for everything, and being made to feel guilty just for being men (hence their name). The interview with the Proud Boys actually stated clearly that they are not in favor of white supremacy or nazi doctrine. So, show me evidence to the contrary. From their own mouths, not filtered through some biased third party.