nsew wrote:That pannier looks like it preceded the Super C which was first produced in the late 80s. I have the front Super C’s here from the 90s that had the unfussy top clip but they’re a pain to attach to a 10mm Tubus, so swapped them out for the newer attachment. I’m no fan of the lower strap attachment either. I might ask Carradice to retro fit them but ideally want a pannier sized between the two.
Carradice stil make Kendal panniers, which are 32 litres each. Maybe they would be willing to make a pair with Super C fittings (shaped lid and webbing handle and plastic buckles).
Somewhere is a post of mine pleading for people always to quote clearly whether the volume is for a pair or single. It's an easy mistake to make and seems to haunt us. I think my plea was prompted by a manufacturer themselves not saying which it was!
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Super C's have the main canvas body, an inner nylon drawstring cover and the outer canvas lid. You can load so the outer lid is tightly down, is this full. Or you can get lots more in with the drawstring cover in bucket mode and the outer cover just going over the top with straps at full stretch.
I wonder which is quoted capacity, probably a 25% difference.
You're welcome! Once I'd worked out that all my bitsNbobs seemed to stay safely in place "in bucket-mode", I've tended to leave them like that unless it starts to rain, especially bearing in mind that the two panniers are in front of me, on my Moulton. The luggage behind me, an Ortlieb rack-pack, would be tightly rolled up and strapped firmly to the rack.
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(on the look out for Armageddon, on board a Brompton nano & ever-changing Moultons)
Re bucket mode. Somebody higher up referred to filling panniers with water to measure their capacity and that's the only simple way to do it accurately. IMO the obvious drawback is that on its own, it doesn't tell you much about what you can actually squeeze in, which depends as much on shape, both of pannier and load. Coupled with horizon's point about is it per pannier or per pair of panniers and the fact that some people wouldn't know what a litre looked like if they met one .....
(I do appreciate that bucket mode was used to apply to roll top panniers in unrolled mode.)
Vorpal wrote: ↑29 Apr 2021, 10:01am
I generally only use bucket mode for shopping, or maybe near the end of a day on tour, when I stop to get some food & don't want squish something.
Or when I’ve bought too much shopping and the only way for it all to fit is to use bucket mode on an Ortlieb or Vaude.
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simonhill wrote: ↑29 Apr 2021, 8:11am
Super C's have the main canvas body, an inner nylon drawstring cover and the outer canvas lid. You can load so the outer lid is tightly down, is this full. Or you can get lots more in with the drawstring cover in bucket mode and the outer cover just going over the top with straps at full stretch.
I wonder which is quoted capacity, probably a 25% difference.
See here:
colin54 wrote: ↑7 Mar 2021, 2:20pm
Just because I could...I filled one of my current model Carradice Super C's up with water, using a 4 pint (2.3l) milk container to measure the bag's capacity. The main compartment took 11 fillings, so 11x2.3 = 25.3l; the rear pocket took just over another bottle full, another 2.3l approx. So 27.6 litres in total x 2 panniers = 55.2l pretty close to the stated 54 litres (edited using figure from Carradice site), bearing in mind the rough and ready measuring method I employed.
and here:
nsew wrote: ↑7 Mar 2021, 2:59pm
Well done filling your pannier with water for the cause. There’s another 2” (20%) of carrying capacity under the pocket hood and about 4” (30%) under the main hood. Carradice should definitely produce a smaller Super C rear pannier as quality modern kit has far less bulk than yesteryear. Gone are the duffle coats, chunky knit sweaters and army mess tins.
Modern gear is a lot more compact indeed, so smaller panniers have become desirable, but quite rare, unless you go for front panniers used at the rear. But if you do that, size matters quite a bit again, because in my experience many front panniers are just a bit small if that is all you use.
