Paper every time for me - but I just jot down the villages or road numbers on route, and they 'unroll' as I go along! As touring is not ALL about speed, the odd occasion when I go astray really does not matter - a few extra m/km in a thousand is trivial - and I often find a better route/a tea stop/grand vista/ that I would otherwise have missed.
Hasta la vista, as they say in France. regards to al, Braz.
How many of us are still using paper maps?
I go for the "combination" vote. Would never go out without paper maps, but my little Garmin Gecko 201 is a very useful accessory, but never a total substitute. I like planning routes on my Fugawi mapping software and then uploading the route to the Gecko and printing off the plotted route to take with me. The Gecko doesn't show the maps on its screen but displays a "compass" arrow indicating the direction of the next turn as well as displaying the OS map reference. Just saves getting the map out so often. The Gecko also records the actual route I take, so when I just "go where the fancy takes me" I've got an accurate log to download to Fugawi mapping software to study.
So, neither an Aye or Nay from me. I like both, but would emphasise that I'd never rely on the gps alone. So at the end of the day it's paper maps first - not least because they don't need batteries that run out at the most inconvenient moment.
So, neither an Aye or Nay from me. I like both, but would emphasise that I'd never rely on the gps alone. So at the end of the day it's paper maps first - not least because they don't need batteries that run out at the most inconvenient moment.
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Genesis Rider
Map or GPS
I much prefer Maps, though confess to using the Garmin Edge to record my trips and I use Bikeroutetoaster.com to do my planning.
I suspect it's what you prefer and get used to that matters
I suspect it's what you prefer and get used to that matters
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LowPlainsDrifter
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Paper.
I wouldn't know how to even start with electronic stuff. It all confuses me and I really hate most modern stuff. I have been trying to get away from it all I dont need any more infuriating techno stuff. I even hate this damn lap top which like every computer I've used I seem to spend more time waiting for stuff to come up or get "page error etc, cannot find site etc" and its all I can do to not throw it against the wall.
(yes I know I wouldn't have been able to read ctc or post this without one. but....!)
I wouldn't know how to even start with electronic stuff. It all confuses me and I really hate most modern stuff. I have been trying to get away from it all I dont need any more infuriating techno stuff. I even hate this damn lap top which like every computer I've used I seem to spend more time waiting for stuff to come up or get "page error etc, cannot find site etc" and its all I can do to not throw it against the wall.
(yes I know I wouldn't have been able to read ctc or post this without one. but....!)
zero population growth.
no to the rat race thanks.
no to the rat race thanks.
Paper maps. I was pondering this question t'other nightwhile looking at an old OS and thinking how much more pleasurable it is compared to say, a Google map.
I want an index of the things that matter to a cyclist, road and lane systems of course, elevation but also interesting country houses, archaeology, river systems, built up areas and how to avoid them. I don't want a literal interpretation of everything in the landscape nor merely a road atlas. The old Barts 2 miler's or OS 1" with brown toned hills were near perfect, you travelled through the map and the land revealed itself at a pace a rider could take in.
I want an index of the things that matter to a cyclist, road and lane systems of course, elevation but also interesting country houses, archaeology, river systems, built up areas and how to avoid them. I don't want a literal interpretation of everything in the landscape nor merely a road atlas. The old Barts 2 miler's or OS 1" with brown toned hills were near perfect, you travelled through the map and the land revealed itself at a pace a rider could take in.
The GPS is very good at getting you from A-B quickly and without fuss (provided that you have told it the route you want to take beforehand and dont use its pathetic sat-nav functions)
The map is very good at giving you information about things that are around you and allowing you to drift where and as you like.
At 165grams I would never venture anywhere that was not a regular route without the GPS.
The map is very good at giving you information about things that are around you and allowing you to drift where and as you like.
At 165grams I would never venture anywhere that was not a regular route without the GPS.
Yma o Hyd
Paper maps by preference for me. I prefer to make up my routes on the fly, and GPS maps don't have the required detail.
I've got a GPS with maps, but generally use it as a recorder, and the small on screen maps as a reminder of where I decided to go. If I'm going into or through a built up area, I'll put the pointer at a required point and tell it to take me there, but that's about all.
I've got a GPS with maps, but generally use it as a recorder, and the small on screen maps as a reminder of where I decided to go. If I'm going into or through a built up area, I'll put the pointer at a required point and tell it to take me there, but that's about all.
Hi
I'm not sure whether you said it in jest but:
If you think they say that in France rather than in Spanish-speaking countries perhaps it's time for a new map?
I'm not sure whether you said it in jest but:
Hasta la vista, as they say in France.
If you think they say that in France rather than in Spanish-speaking countries perhaps it's time for a new map?
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matt_twam_asi
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I use paper maps backed up by voice instructions from amAze on my mobile. It works ok(ish) although there's no way to upload waypoints/POIs etc. - hopefully that should be coming soon. I can't complain really, as it's free.
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nick arrow
When will they produce (bike accessory manufacturers, are you listening?) a bar bag, with instead of a map pocket, a wee weatherproof LCD screen, say 7" or 9", microprocessor, couple of gigabytes of memory would hold the whole UK OS map, GPS receiver, we'd have the best of both worlds. All the technology exists, cheaply, it's just a matter of putting it together. Come on somebody ...
Hi,
I use both OS / IGN maps in conjuntion with the Garmin Vista CX GPS, The paper map allows you to see the big picture, and the GPS to confirm location, also handy for points of interest and track properties.
Have a look at the Satmap A10 (Active 10) you can get the UK OS maps for it on SD card. Brother in Law just got one, and he loves it... this is this 4th GPS.
I use both OS / IGN maps in conjuntion with the Garmin Vista CX GPS, The paper map allows you to see the big picture, and the GPS to confirm location, also handy for points of interest and track properties.
Have a look at the Satmap A10 (Active 10) you can get the UK OS maps for it on SD card. Brother in Law just got one, and he loves it... this is this 4th GPS.