Re: Cut That Kit!
Posted: 21 Jun 2011, 4:00pm
I used to have a pretty heavy rear rack (Tortec expedition) but changed it for a Tortec velocity which saved a few hundred grams. It's a good sturdy rack too.
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ossie wrote:Are your straps for the tents ? Use a bunjee each mate. So much easier than straps. I agree about their limited longevity but you arent going around the world. Plus you can hang your wet washing from them, extra things slip under them. I took both on my recent Spain / UK tour and binned the straps in France, they are a pain. It was a 10 second job to bunjee the tent on but a a right pain to put straps on - plus straps dont stretch to stick stuff under...you can also bunjee your bike to the tent at night if you are worried...they stretch so hang washing on them or wet kit.
I took a compass but what a waste of time..even in remote mountain areas I didnt use it. Brake cable / Gear cable? - honestly what are the chances of them going? More chance of your chain snapping on a hill but you arent taking a chain tool. Longs? I took some but put the insect repellent on my legs and didnt need them.
Tape :duct tape dont take the electrical tape- where are your zip ties? - essential
Do you know what the reality will be? You will be super cautious about weight then hit a supermarket on the second day and load yourself down with cakes, biscuits, chocolate, etc etc. By day 3 your panniers will be a mess by day 5 you wont give a monkees about weight- all you will want is food, food and more food
bealer wrote:Your kit list looks about right. An extra kilo or two won't be noticed after the first day.
Having said that I like a lighter bike, purely for the enjoyment of it not feeling like a loaded truck, stuff is less likely to break, you use less energy etc... etc... You could cut some of the individual smaller items, or switch to things like soap. Or drop the cables, but you'd save like 40g. To be honest, the best way to save weight would be to change some of the heavier items you already have. But that means additional expenditure.
If it were me...
- Lighter tent, close to 1.5kg all in for a two or three man
- Lighter down sleeping bags, 500g per bag
- Drop the D-Lock or whatever the heavier lock is. Go with a cable lock, the thicker type with metal casing. They usually weigh nearer 800g.
The above would save you nearly 4kg. Most of that is done via a different tent. That's quite a bit though, I'm carrying 5.5kg in each pannier for my london to oz trip, so 4kg would make a difference.
bealer wrote:Also forgot to mention. Think about the bike itself. I switched from Schwalbe Marathon 32C to Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 28C. So far they're working well for me, and I'm quite liking 28C. The bonus is the Supreme's saved me 600g for an additional £14. Instead of a rear rack bag which can be heavy-ish I opted for a more simple AlpKit xtra dry bag. The 35L one is around 250g or so, the 20L is probably around 200g. That's typically a saving of around 250-400g on some rack bags I've seen. Both of those changes saved me near a kilo I reckon.
The only thing I haven't been able to get down is the 1700g weight of my Ortlieb back roller plus's. I still find that quite heavy for what they are. Something nearer 1-1.2kg would be more acceptable for me.
Cachao wrote: I am considering a rear-view mirror, but haven't looked into it
ossie wrote:Get a mirror if you can. I got one at the last minute from a mate who runs a bike shop. One of these : fitted it to my drops
http://www.awcycles.co.uk/brands/Zefal/ ... index.aspx
It was fantastic for me in France. I was able to see HGVS and traffic coming from a long distance back and slow down, adjust my speed etc to assist traffic flow past me on some really tight roads. Would thoroughly recommend it. Thought it would be 'nerdish' but has to go down as one of my best purchases yet.
Cachao wrote:I think I will get a mirror, but I'm worried about its view being obscured by the panniers as I have seen no pictures of one actually on a bike. Any recommendations?
Tonyf33 wrote:Some observations:
I'd say 4 cycle tops = about 1kg
If you've bike lights do you really need head torches especially given the time of year.
Mirror, don't. IMO pointless, do you use one normally, if not why consider one now?
Headphones instead of speakers, the speakers will be tinny anyhow, no?
25g of suncream doesn't seem a lot for two of you. I'd suggest taking a full tube, last thing you need is to get burnt & even in low light you're going to be out for long hours. Get factor 20 unless you like to go for the half arm deep brown adonis look
If you ride in just shorts maybe take a spare pair or are you going to wash/dry them each night?
You've put down underwear, what are you wearing on top of them or is that just for night-time in the sleeping bag. What about taking a normal pair of walking shorts to wear rather than the sweaty cycling shorts at the end of each day(or do you plan to sit in your undies
If I had a choice I'd take a bar of soap rather than shower gel, it makes it easier to wash your shorts with too.
Are you taking washing up liquid or you just rinsing stuff out where you're camping?
Are the pumps the little mini dudes? Have you tried pumping up a tyre from flat to 100psi with one before? Is yours capable of doing that in any case?
If you've got a map & a phone why the need for a compass?
Just some thoughts anyway
Cachao wrote:Any more advice on soap? I would really like one type to do pots and pans, clothes, shaving and showering.