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Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 10:21am
by BMB Club Secretary
Hi there, I recently signed up with the CTC group insurance as Barnsley Mountain Bikers and have to register the groups leaders.

But I can't for the life of me see anywhere on the site to do this. Am I missing the obvious for the trees on this? I'll be grateful if I can be pointed into the right site page to do this.

Thanks in advance Pete - BMB

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 11:09am
by robgul
AfAIK our club (affiliated to CTC) membership secretary simply sends an email to CTC HQ once a month listing all the ride leaders by name (and CTC No if they are CTC members of any variety).

Rob

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 11:17am
by BMB Club Secretary
Thanks for that reply Rob. Do you know what email address it goes to?

Pete (BMB)

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 11:20am
by David Cox
I've recently checked this for an affiliated club. Nowdays you can send the names of leaders to Julie.Rand@ctc.org.uk she keeps the list.

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 11:40am
by BMB Club Secretary
Thanks for that David Cox, I'll get on with that asap.

Pete BMB

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 12:36pm
by robgul
.... I've sent you a PM with a comment that may be useful

Rob

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 7:45am
by BMB Club Secretary
Thanks for the info on that all, I've registered the leaders now and all legal.

Pete BMB

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 6:11pm
by Colin Stanley
I am a bit confused.
I am a member of the CTC and I thought therefore have 3rd party insurance when riding ?
However, occasionally I lead rides for a local cycling club, and as such does this negate my 3rd party insurance ?
So as a ride leader, do I have to be' registered' with the CTC to be insured ?
Grateful for any advice on this.

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 7:17pm
by PH
Colin Stanley wrote:I am a bit confused.
I am a member of the CTC and I thought therefore have 3rd party insurance when riding ?
However, occasionally I lead rides for a local cycling club, and as such does this negate my 3rd party insurance ?
So as a ride leader, do I have to be' registered' with the CTC to be insured ?
Grateful for any advice on this.


Yes and no.
It makes no difference to you being involved as a rider in something that causes there to be a claim against you.
But if the club you are leading a ride for had a claim made against it, for something someone felt you should or shouldn't have done, you are not covered.
Here is the cover provided for ride leaders, it's the same for member groups and affiliated clubs, the club you are leading for may already have some policy that covers itself, I'd check it also covered you.
http://www.ctc.org.uk/sites/default/fil ... ance_0.pdf

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 8:27pm
by Colin Stanley
Thanks PH,
that is worrying.
as far as I know, my local club is affiliated to the CTC.
So do they have to register the ride leaders ?
it is a club that has many ride sections during the week with many leaders.

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 8:39pm
by PH
Colin Stanley wrote:Thanks PH,
So do they have to register the ride leaders ?
it is a club that has many ride sections during the week with many leaders.

Yes they should register them, it's simply a matter of the club sending an email to the address above. As a ride leader you should also know who is and isn't a member of the club and you should of course be a member yourself.
Please don't get this out of proportion, the incidence of claims is very rare, that's why the insurance is so cheap. There is a whole load of information for ride leaders, that came together for the recent workshops, IMO worth reading.
http://www.ctc.org.uk/uk-cycling-events ... de-leader-

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 8:56pm
by PH
robgul wrote:AfAIK our club (affiliated to CTC) membership secretary simply sends an email to CTC HQ once a month listing all the ride leaders by name (and CTC No if they are CTC members of any variety).

Rob

I know it won't do any harm, but for the purpose of this insurance someone's CTC status is an irrelevance.

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 11:48pm
by Colin Stanley
Thanks for the replies.
I will speak with our membership secretary.

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 7:37am
by robgul
PH wrote:
robgul wrote:AfAIK our club (affiliated to CTC) membership secretary simply sends an email to CTC HQ once a month listing all the ride leaders by name (and CTC No if they are CTC members of any variety).

Rob

I know it won't do any harm, but for the purpose of this insurance someone's CTC status is an irrelevance.


Correct - but it does give our membership secretary confirmation that people are members of the club within the correct classification (they are : CTC Full, CTC Affiliate, Own insurance) - especially if members change classification between renewals (as I have 8) )

Rob

Re: Registering ride leaders for the CTC insurance.

Posted: 28 May 2016, 11:10pm
by MartinBrice
PH wrote:it's the same for member groups and affiliated clubs

No it isn't. The insurance for a ride leader of an affiliated club does not extend beyond the UK. So if you lead a ride abroad and want to be insured as a leader then the club needs to be a Member group.
The FNRttC is an affiliated group. So when its members go on a tour outside the UK it does not have a leader. Its riders book their own transport, accommodation and buy their own food. They tend to, but do not always, ride together along a route suggested by one of its riders. The rider who suggests the route is a CTC member and so has third party insurance, as do all of them on the tour.
HTH.