Havering CTC. Essex or East London?

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TerryJones
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Havering CTC. Essex or East London?

Postby TerryJones » 28 Oct 2014, 11:56am

In 1965, when Havering was formed by joining Romford Council and Hornchurch Council, it became part of Greater London and has been The London Borough of Havering ever since. Why is it that as far as the CTC is concerned, Havering is in Essex, when the Essex boundary stops at Brentwood in the east, and Epping in the north east? Surely it should be renamed to take account of this. Havering Essex it certainly isn't, as Havering residents vote in the London Mayoral elections.
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mike_dowler
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Re: Havering CTC. Essex or East London?

Postby mike_dowler » 29 Oct 2014, 6:04pm

When I moved to the area, I would always correct any suggestion that I was moving to Essex - no, it's the London Borough of Havering. As my brother pointed out, though, that doesn't hold much water when you are talking about the famous "non-Essex town" of Romford.

It may no longer be under the control of Essex County Council, but you only have to cycle past Wetherspoons in a Thursday night to know you are still in Essex.

TerryJones
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Re: Havering CTC. Essex or East London?

Postby TerryJones » 30 Oct 2014, 6:17pm

Wetherspoons on a Friday or Saturday night is the same anywhere. Most of Essex is rural, and therefore picturesque. Silly programmes like TOWIE give an entirely false representation of the county.
Havering, as you point out, is a LONDON borough, and therefore NOT in Essex. Why are the Havering group part of the Essex CTC?
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Re: Havering CTC. Essex or East London?

Postby mr_cellophane » 26 Jan 2015, 9:05pm

Just because it is a "London borough" doesn't mean it is not "in" Essex. Even Redbridge Council think they are in Essex. Just look at the addresses on their web site. An artificial administrative boundary does not make a geographic location.
London boroughs are those with a post code that starts E, N, NW, W, SE, SW, WC, EC !

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Re: Havering CTC. Essex or East London?

Postby Vorpal » 28 Jan 2015, 1:28pm

Does it matter? I think it is more an indication of affiliation and where they ride than whether they consider Havering to be a London borough? Other Essex member groups are probably easier to get to, as well.
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