Craghoppers Kiwi Pro Active trousers

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Re: Craghoppers Kiwi Pro Active trousers

Postby thirdcrank » 13 Sep 2017, 1:58pm

We've had some interesting threads about rainlegs before but I've never tried them. Going back a while, pre-Lusso tights, I used to wear Tudor plusses or longs (fleecy backed material) and they soak up water and don't dry well. As it's the front of the thighs which tends to get soaked first, I mentally invented rainlegs before they were invented, if you see what I mean. Lo and behold, two Wheels Good, as was, introduced some sort of "chaps" rather like what cowboys were portrayed as wearing but with waterproof fronts and a mesh back. They certainly kept the fronts of my legs drier - except for condensation - but the water ran off the edges and soaked the backs of my legs instead. My next invention, gutters round the edges, never went into production. :wink: Luckily for me, Lusso brought out their tights and I discovered polyamide trousers as well.

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Re: Craghoppers Kiwi Pro Active trousers

Postby pjclinch » 13 Sep 2017, 8:28pm

reohn2 wrote:Cotton is a well known moisture retainer,I cant say I've heard of 'technical cotton weave' and can't see how it can dry quicker than synthetics :?


What a "technical weave" generally equates to is finer and thinner, so there's less ability to hold water so it dries quicker than, say, a pair of jeans. If you've got a fairly chunky synthetic in a baggy cut (which means less proximity to drying body heat) it may take longer than fine cotton in a relatively close cut

One of the positives of stretch is it means the garment can be cut closer, which means it's closer to the warm legs that are drying it out. That's a lot of why tights dry so fast. You can get "technical" cotton/elastane mixes which have the nice feel of cotton along with down to skin-tight fit.

However, all else being equal synthetics will dry quicker.

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Re: Craghoppers Kiwi Pro Active trousers

Postby reohn2 » 13 Sep 2017, 9:17pm

pjclinch wrote:.......However, all else being equal synthetics will dry quicker.

Pete.


That is my experience,I learned a loonnngggg time ago not to wear cotton when cycling or when walking in the hills.
If you get cold wearing cotton you stay cold,synthetics dry rapid and the muscles warm up amazingly quick as the material when dry becomes almost totally windproof.
In cold weather another thin synthetic layer such as lightweight Pertex overtrousers (Montane featherlite pants) and I'm very cozy :D

NOTE,TC mentioned Lusso stuff up thread their Roubaix material is amazing,warm wet or dry
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Re: Craghoppers Kiwi Pro Active trousers

Postby pjclinch » 14 Sep 2017, 8:51am

reohn2 wrote:
pjclinch wrote:.......However, all else being equal synthetics will dry quicker.

Pete.


That is my experience,I learned a loonnngggg time ago not to wear cotton when cycling or when walking in the hills.
If you get cold wearing cotton you stay cold,synthetics dry rapid and the muscles warm up amazingly quick as the material when dry becomes almost totally windproof.


A couple of generalisations too far, I think...

On hot days cotton can actively cool you. Hillwalking does not necessarily imply cold and wet. You need to be prepared as it can always turn that way, but while it isn't cotton has a place.
And not all cotton is created equal. My wide-brimmed hat is cotton duck, and it keeps off both sun and rain very effectively. Ventile cotton is used in waterproofs and was originally developed for pilot's immersion suits. It has a niche but enthusiastic following among outdoors types, being much more breathablke and comfortable than Goretex or similar.

Windproof is about weave, not composition of the fibres. I have a synthetic mesh running singlet somewhere. However dry it is it's never windproof, but a cotton Ventile jacket is pretty much completely windproof.

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Re: Craghoppers Kiwi Pro Active trousers

Postby Vorpal » 15 Sep 2017, 6:50am

Cotton duck is good for cycling. I hadn't thought about that. I have a Carradice cape that I use for lots of things; not just cycling. It's good for days out with the kids because I can put it on over a rucksack.

I also have an Aussie 'drycoat' that is similar material that I like (although I wouldn't cycle in it for reasons unrelated to the material)

I was more thinking of shirts and trousers. I wouldn't want to wear cotton duck against my skin, and I've not come across other cotton materials that I would want to wear on the bike.
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Re: Craghoppers Kiwi Pro Active trousers

Postby pjclinch » 15 Sep 2017, 8:27am

Hilltrek's Greenspot cotton touring jacket is generally well thought of (by those that can afford it!).

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