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Re: Sports direct

Postby NUKe » 16 Dec 2018, 11:24pm

But the sizing of most cycle stuff is a joke. When I buy shirts, jumpers in normal clothes I am medium, or large if I want a more relaxed fit, some brands of cycling clothes I am XL and snug. Cycle clothing has always been this way, Since the rise of the Mamil a couple of Brands have done more relaxed sizing.
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Re: Sports direct

Postby pjclinch » 21 Dec 2018, 3:54pm

Sizing of cycling shoes... I'm generally a EU 43. My Bontragers are an EU 43. My previous Diadoras were actually a 42.

My wife uses Shimanos, and they are 41 for her usual 41. But Shimanos are so lacking in width where I need it that I have to go a couple of sizes up, at which point they have far too much space ahead of the toe. I'm okay in Shimano sandals at 43, but there's very little upper to rub, of course, and what there is is easily resized with velcro straps.

When my son was starting to get in to track racing we got him a pair of Muddy Fox road shoes in Sports Direct. They weren't perfect but for £12 what do you expect? Very good value, although of course the cost was more than doubled by putting a pair of cleats on!

I dislike shopping at SD a lot, it's a soul-sucker of a shop. But if you want a basic item (e.g. a wee rucksack for your child's school bag) where there's not much to gain being a Gear Junkie the prices are very low. Most of the stuff I've bought in there has been for the kids, on the grounds that they could be relied on to grow out of it in 6 months (or lose interest) so buying something to last doesn't make so much sense.

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Re: Sports direct

Postby atoz » 26 Dec 2018, 5:10pm

JohnW wrote:
4waydriver wrote:Having visited my local sports direct, I have returned all the items I purchased. Nothing fits, advised that everyone buys cycling shoes a size bigger than normal? This suggests to me that their sizes are wrong. Tights and jerseys are far too small for the stated sizes. Anyone else used kit from here ?

That's certainly my experience - absolutely. However, on a visit to the store I can easily try everything that I want to buy - never had a problem with that. I've certainly found that quoted shoe sizes are a joke; however, I only buy cheapo shoes from Sports Direct, for comparatively short term use from them (i.e. the heels don't last long!) The cycling jerseys I find to be good value for money, and very serviceable. It's true though - I don't go by quoted sizes - I try them on first.

I have used some thin soled, excellently profiled cheapo shoes. They're perfectly OK for cycling - 200mile days without even noticing that I'm wearing them. They have thin, flat soles, narrow heels that [url][/url]don't catch the cranks as I'm pedalling, smooth uppers that don't snag on the toe-clips (I ride clips-n'-straps). I do stress, that the quoted sizes are a joke and I was initially amazed at the quoted size that seemed to fit my feet. However, they stretch to fit the foot, and shoes that fit new are slack ant too long before their first day is over. I've found by experiment which size of that particular range is best for me - seem tight to start with but ease to fit me very quickly. If it sounds expensive to experiment, they're only about £25 and can be worn for mucking about until they're worn out. Leather uppers!

None of this is best, upper quality stuff - can't beat Evans for that, but it's serviceable stuff for the price, and I find Sports Direct an asset.

I'm not suggesting what others should do, I'm just saying what works for me.


The problem has a lot to do with a lack of understanding of international clothing and footwear sizes. I would advise anyone to check the easily available sizing charts on the internet. For example, I take a UK size 8 in shoes. However, most cycling footwear is not made in the UK. In my case I was wearing today Shimano MT34 shoes which are marked as EU size 43, US 8.9 and CM 27.2. The latter 27.2 size is a standard way of sizing trainers and is pretty reliable, especially for shoes from the Far East (which most sport shoes are these days). I have a pair of DeFeet socks that come out in summer- these are a US size large - see this wiggle chart - https://www.wiggle.co.uk/defeet-aireator-hi-vis-d-logo-socks/?lang=en&curr=GBP&dest=1&sku=5360717918&kpid=5360717918&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Shopping+-+All+Products&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mckv|sU88eKOV8_dc|mcrid|295297463276|mkw||mmt||mrd|5360717918uk|mslid||&mkwid=sU88eKOV8_dc&pcrid=295297463276&prd=5360717918uk&pgrid=60973418042&ptaid=pla-522115524891&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyuGTwPm93wIVirDtCh24oQ53EAQYAiABEgLgIPD_BwE.

See this trainer size chart from Asics at https://www.asics.com/gb/en-gb/shoe-size-guide/ as a guide. Compare with Clark's sizing charts at https://www.clarks.co.uk/fitguide#sizecharts but of course they are for shoes, not trainers..

Understanding your clothing sizes is very important when buying online. Actually for male clothing this is less of a problem. My female friends and colleagues are quick to tell me how lucky men are with sizing- at least ours are not based on dress sizes. One marque's size 12 can be another's size 14- then there is the issue of hip, length, etc. Women's fashion is big business online, and despite the sizing issues, these businesses turn around serious money- you just have to know what your size really is. Charts are always available from these types of suppliers. They often have a mirror image mens online fashion presence, and the charts can be very helpful Also bear in mind that cycle clothing that is "form fitting" ie a race fit, will fit tightly. Women's clothing is mostly form fitting of course.

There is nothing new about sizing variation. When I have been lucky enough to get Castelli clothing at reduced prices, i take an XL in a long sleeved winter jersey- everyone else it is no bigger than L. Short sleeve jerseys are normally L, except some Altura which can be M. Shorts are usually L except some eg Castelli and Santini. In a roubaix short I can be either L or XL depending on fit- you need to check the charts for the manufacturer. Any decent manufacturer will make this available one way or another- either on their website or online supplier. If you can't find reliable info, don't buy.

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Re: Sports direct

Postby pjclinch » 28 Dec 2018, 7:54am

atoz wrote:...If you can't find reliable info, don't buy.


Or be prepared to factor possible return postage in as a bit of a bet on how the price is so low, or as an occupational hazard of geography if you can only realistically get stuff delivered.

If you can try something on in person before purchase I personally regard that as a luxury worth paying extra for, but sometimes it just can't be done.

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Re: Sports direct

Postby JohnW » 28 Dec 2018, 11:29am

pjclinch wrote:
atoz wrote:...If you can't find reliable info, don't buy.


Or be prepared to factor possible return postage in as a bit of a bet on how the price is so low, or as an occupational hazard of geography if you can only realistically get stuff delivered.

If you can try something on in person before purchase I personally regard that as a luxury worth paying extra for, but sometimes it just can't be done.

Pete.

I've only ever bought footwear and cycling tops/jackets/waterproofs from Sports Direct, and always been able to try them in the shop. I've never bought shorts/jogging bottoms etc from them - I don't know whether they have trying-on rooms. Maybe different branches have different facilities. To be honest, I don't find the shops pleasant places to be, but ".......sufficient unto the day thereof.....", if you see what I mean.

The only clothes that I've ever bought by post has been cycling jerseys from GB Cycles, and never had a sizing problem with them.

I understand that the Sports Direct owner has now bought Evans................am I right? I hope that the ethos of Evans doesn't deteriorate - I've always found them splendid to deal with.

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Re: Sports direct

Postby atoz » 28 Dec 2018, 9:34pm

JohnW wrote:
pjclinch wrote:
atoz wrote:...If you can't find reliable info, don't buy.


Or be prepared to factor possible return postage in as a bit of a bet on how the price is so low, or as an occupational hazard of geography if you can only realistically get stuff delivered.

If you can try something on in person before purchase I personally regard that as a luxury worth paying extra for, but sometimes it just can't be done.

Pete.

I've only ever bought footwear and cycling tops/jackets/waterproofs from Sports Direct, and always been able to try them in the shop. I've never bought shorts/jogging bottoms etc from them - I don't know whether they have trying-on rooms. Maybe different branches have different facilities. To be honest, I don't find the shops pleasant places to be, but ".......sufficient unto the day thereof.....", if you see what I mean.

The only clothes that I've ever bought by post has been cycling jerseys from GB Cycles, and never had a sizing problem with them.

I understand that the Sports Direct owner has now bought Evans................am I right? I hope that the ethos of Evans doesn't deteriorate - I've always found them splendid to deal with.


I suspect Evans is having a few problems. My guess is they will ditch the high stree presence. It's a pity, but that's retail these days. They are overpriced, but there again that's no unusual with some cycle shops- not proper local dealers who are more realstic and actually do customer service. Hopefully they will stay in business, if I and a lot of other cyclists have anyting to do with it. Here's hoping..

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Re: Sports direct

Postby JohnW » 29 Dec 2018, 12:25am

atoz wrote:.....................I suspect Evans is having a few problems. My guess is they will ditch the high stree presence. It's a pity......................Hopefully they will stay in business, if I and a lot of other cyclists have anyting to do with it. Here's hoping..

It would certainly be a pity - I must say that I'm hoping too..........................

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Re: Sports direct

Postby Cunobelin » 29 Dec 2018, 8:35am

My cycle does vary from a size 11 to size 15 depending on Manufacturer

It is a feature of the whole clothing industry

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Re: Sports direct

Postby Cunobelin » 29 Dec 2018, 8:39am

Some few years ago, I had a derailleur failure on the way in to work

No problem as I have Wiggle - mahoosive dealer just down the road.

Unfortunately they cannot do anything apart from internet order, even if I order on line they cannot physically give it to me

So I ordered from St John Street to get the parts I needed by mail

One of the problems with no High Street presence

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Re: Sports direct

Postby pwa » 1 Jan 2019, 11:17pm

Sports Direct is the sort of retailer that puts me off STUFF generally. I'd almost rather go naked than get something from them. They reinforce my inclination to turn my back on consumerism and live a simpler life with less clutter. Including bike stuff. I left the treadmill of wanting the latest bike stuff twenty years ago, and that was a relief. What a farce that was.