Surly Troll

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maxglide
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Re: Surly Troll

Postby maxglide » 21 Feb 2019, 9:45am

I wouldn't shell out £1k for a beaten up demo bike, instead of buying say, a perfectly good brand-new Ridgeback Expedition for the same money.

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Re: Surly Troll

Postby reohn2 » 21 Feb 2019, 10:09am

maxglide wrote:I wouldn't shell out £1k for a beaten up demo bike, instead of buying say, a perfectly good brand-new Ridgeback Expedition for the same money.

I wouldn't say that's a direct comparison.
The Ridgeback is without doubt a good bike but the kit spec is much higher on the Surly.The Surly is also designed to take a bigger section tyre and has more brazeons than the Ridgeback,and I wouldn't term the Troll demo bike in the link as 'beaten up', more like very lightly used.
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Re: Surly Troll

Postby RRSODL » 26 Feb 2019, 6:08pm

Tiberius wrote:You are not the first person to be shocked at Surly price increases.

In April 2015 I bought a Surly Troll framset (black/large) from 'Triton Cycles' for £404.00....this year's frameset (Triton/black/large) is £712.49.

For me it was all about the versatility of the thing, mine has been very much a 'Frankenbike' in the drivetrain/brakes department. If I had known for an absolute fact that I would (say) always run a Rohloff and never run with discs then I would have gone with a Thorn (it WAS a very close call)

It's a great bike but I wouldn't pay circa £2K for one particularly if it's versitility was an irrelevance to me.


Last September I bought the Troll's big sister, the Ogre frameset, for the same reason, versatility. I have it as a touring bike configuration ATM but I'm sure that will change.

At the time all the prices I found here in the UK were around the £750 mark but I purchased mine from Germany for £509 and free delivery.... I took the opportunity to buy other bits and pieces.

I looked into buying the full bike for about £2k but some of the components put me off, you really don't ge a good deal in my view.

I spent about £1.6k in all and I definitely have a superior set of components and wheels.

The bike is great and worth every penny.

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Re: Surly Troll

Postby scottg » 14 May 2019, 12:39am

I've a Troll, you don't see them sold built up very often,
they're meant to be a parts bin bike.
Mine is built up with parts off a 9 speed era StumpJumper.
They're good value if you price them per braze on. :)
Here in the Colonies they're $625 in a shop, a bit more online.
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Re: Surly Troll

Postby Lance Dopestrong » 14 May 2019, 9:40am

maxglide wrote:I've been looking at steel, non sus, 26" wheelers (old school MTB) for my preferred bike type. The Surly Troll came to my attention. It ticks most of the boxes and has positive reviews. So, it's a good bike. Doesn't look bad either.

Then surprise, when I saw the retail price in the UK: 2,000 quid for a bike with nothing special for components and an average frame? Where's the money going?


Then why not get an olde school MTB then? They can often be had very cheap, many have excellent quality frames, and even if you went the whole hog with new paint or powder coat and a rebuild with new parts you still won't have spent half of that.
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Re: Surly Troll

Postby Bmblbzzz » 14 May 2019, 11:09am

scottg wrote:I've a Troll, you don't see them sold built up very often,
they're meant to be a parts bin bike.
Mine is built up with parts off a 9 speed era StumpJumper.
They're good value if you price them per braze on. :)
Here in the Colonies they're $625 in a shop, a bit more online.

Interesting that shop prices are cheaper than online over your way. Counterintuitive for us olde worlders!

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Re: Surly Troll

Postby scottg » 14 May 2019, 1:34pm

Bmblbzzz wrote:Interesting that shop prices are cheaper than online over your way. Counterintuitive for us olde worlders!


QBP is the major distributor for bikes shops here, they understand how to hold prices,
good for their profits and keeping the dealer base happy.
(QBP owns Surly, Problem Solvers, Whisky Parts, Salsa, All City, Civia etc)
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