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Record attempt scheduled

Postby Paulatic » 18 Feb 2018, 10:25pm

A schedule has been lodged for an attempt at Gethin Butlers record -24 hours, Land’s End to John o’Groats, 1000 miles.
Mike Broadwith has lodged it for a date after 29th April.
His route https://ridewithgps.com/routes/26405677
and schedule https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21A ... ot&o=OneUp
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby horizon » 18 Feb 2018, 11:23pm

Just to clarify, that's not LEJOG in 24 hours.
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby Paulatic » 18 Feb 2018, 11:38pm

horizon wrote:Just to clarify, that's not LEJOG in 24 hours.

That would be going some :D
No it’s all 3 records. All of it is a hell of a challenge but I always think turning around at the top for the 1000 must take a huge mental effort.
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby horizon » 19 Feb 2018, 12:26am

Unless of course he just concentrates on the 1000 and everything else just gets bagged as bonuses as he goes along. It makes me wonder if there are any other records he could break just by doing what he has already planned.

My other thought was: has anyone ever projected a limit as to what is possible and will the record one day be held for ever?

My third thought is that he hasn't listed his overnight accommodation. :lol: :lol: :lol:

By the way, here's a quote from the GBofR website:

Many Solo riders in Race Across America do their first 36 - 48 hours without sleep and will go on 4 hours sleep a night throughout the 3000 mile race. If you break down an ave speed of 22 mph, over the 900 miles, you'll be just shy of 41 hours. At 21mph it works out at 21 hrs, 55 mins roughly. So given natural breaks, Gethin would have had over 2 hours to play with this throughout the 2 days on this speed. My guessing is he will have ridden without sleep, or if he was riding at a speed closer to 25mph, would have had 8 hours to play with, which suggests that looking at some RAAM Solo riders performance, the record is very breakable again.
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby Spinners » 19 Feb 2018, 6:38am

I love stuff like this. I hope he does it and there's no traffic issues or muppet drivers to get in his way.
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby Tiberius » 19 Feb 2018, 6:55am

I also love this stuff..

What do 'those in the know' make of the route ??......Opinions ??.....

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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby Username » 19 Feb 2018, 7:49am

Paulatic wrote:A schedule has been lodged for an attempt at Gethin Butlers record -24 hours, Land’s End to John o’Groats, 1000 miles.
Mike Broadwith has lodged it for a date after 29th April.
His route https://ridewithgps.com/routes/26405677
and schedule https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21A ... ot&o=OneUp


horizon wrote:Just to clarify, that's not LEJOG in 24 hours.


So what does that bold bit mean then? LEJOG in one day of Venus?

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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby Paulatic » 19 Feb 2018, 8:44am

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Paulatic wrote:A schedule has been lodged for an attempt at Gethin Butlers record -24 hours, Land’s End to John o’Groats, 1000 miles.
Mike Broadwith has lodged it for a date after 29th April.
His route https://ridewithgps.com/routes/26405677
and schedule https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21A ... ot&o=OneUp


horizon wrote:Just to clarify, that's not LEJOG in 24 hours.


So what does that bold bit mean then? LEJOG in one day of Venus?

Sorry you’ve lost me there :) If you’d said Tulsa I might have got a reference.
Or perhaps you’ve missed the comma listing the sequence of challenges.
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby borisface » 19 Feb 2018, 9:05am

Gethin's record has been around for some time now. I assume Michael Broadwith will be using a TT bike. I had a conversation a few years ago with John Woodburn, who pointed out that he still held the record for Lejog on a road bike.

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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby cyclop » 19 Feb 2018, 9:26am

Point of interest,should not these incredible endurance rides be classed as "bests" not "records" .A 24hr record with a stiff tailwind can,t be compared with any other ride.In a similar fashion,road running "records" can only officially be termed as "bests".Round the world "records" are a classic example of this,despite the truly epic nature of these rides.

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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby thirdcrank » 19 Feb 2018, 10:36am

Paulatic wrote: ... I always think turning around at the top for the 1000 must take a huge mental effort.


Obviously, I've never been in record breaker territory, but that sums it up for me. Whenever we have threads from riders planning a long (for them) ride asking for tips, posters explain what works for them and some use maneagable chunks: divide the ride into sections and concentrate on finishing each in turn. That's never worked for me. In the various accounts of End to End record attempts I've read over many years, the 1,000 mile always seems to have been something of an afterthought. Had I been in that league, I'd have targeted the 1,000 with the End to End a side show, not even stopping at John O' Groats for pictures - always assuming I was on scedule, of course. In reality, it's not the best way of attempting the 1,000, which I suspect would be best on a windless few days on a well-marshalled course somewhere in East Anglia. I think the End to End has a bit more importance in the history of UK distance records.

On thing that must have made it a bit better for more recent riders has been dropping the ban on publicity. An attempt of this type is never going to turn out the TdeF-in-Yorkshire sized crowds, but a few roadside supporters cheering on some of the climbs must cheer the spirits. It's now easier than ever to keep potential supporters up-to-date with timings etc.

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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby horizon » 19 Feb 2018, 11:57am

thirdcrank wrote: In reality, it's not the best way of attempting the 1,000, which I suspect would be best on a windless few days on a well-marshalled course somewhere in East Anglia. I think the End to End has a bit more importance in the history of UK distance records.



I was struck by that too and i wonder if that is what makes the stats described in my quote about the Race Across America relevant - if you want to ride 1000 miles very fast you don't choose Cornwall as your starting point. What makes LEJOG interesting is that it isn't just riding round and round an indoor circuit - you have the added challenge of weather, wind, roads and hills.
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby thirdcrank » 19 Feb 2018, 12:26pm

FWIW, I think that a lot of place-to-place cycling records are now history. Not in the sense that every record is inherently a bit of history, but that much of it is long-gone. Conditions for cycling on the most direct routes have deteriorated so much, especially on the records involving London. The End-to-End has perhaps suffered less than most in that it obviously goes nowhere near London or the main roads radiating from it. Little ever seems to be made of the reduced distance from which more recent record attempts have benefited. IIRC it was something like 870 miles in the days of Reg Randall and Dave Keeler.

Some of the possible variations, such as mixed tandem tricycle seem more theoretical than likely.

http://www.rra.org.uk/index.html?ifrm_1 ... place.html

I've only a passing interest in the subject - with a lot of admiration for those who achieve these feats so I don't know anything about recent developments, but while googling that link, I discovered that some new circuit records are now open to attempts: not on the relatively flat roads of East Anglia but around areas like national parks, which presumably reflects what I was saying above. No successful attempts listed, only the standard to be beaten.

http://www.rra.org.uk/index.html?ifrm_1 ... cords.html

I think it's worth remembering that although the successful riders tend to be professionals in the sense of not being true amateurs, the money and expertise available in the wider world of professional cycle racing has never been focused on UK cycling records.

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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby horizon » 19 Feb 2018, 1:11pm

thirdcrank wrote: Little ever seems to be made of the reduced distance from which more recent record attempts have benefited. IIRC it was something like 870 miles in the days of Reg Randall and Dave Keeler.



To which I presume we can add fewer hills, shallower bends, better surfaces, fewer traffic lights and more straight sections.

But to be fair to LEJOG, it is still a romantic endeavour - it has a context and place and isn't just a matter of cold statistics - we can still wonder at the desolation of the North and imagine the challenges ahead.
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Re: Record attempt scheduled

Postby thirdcrank » 19 Feb 2018, 1:30pm

IME, hills get steeper every rear. I think highway authorities spend more money on increasing the severity of gradients than they do on maintaining road surfaces.
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