Nocturnal End2End

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Nocturnal End2End

Postby Mick F » 15 Sep 2020, 3:30pm

Has anyone ever considered riding End2End nocturnally?
It could have some sort of merits as the roads would be quieter.

Main worries would be getting quiet and peaceful "over-day" sleeping accommodation, and meals at the right time for a nocturnal "upside down" routine.

Could it be done?
Is it possible?
Has anyone done it?

Sounds like a good sponsorship deal.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Cyril Haearn » 15 Sep 2020, 3:43pm

One would have to do it in winter when the nights are longer
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Paulatic » 15 Sep 2020, 3:54pm

This 4 day LEJOG done at the end of December didn’t see a lot of daylight.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Mick F » 15 Sep 2020, 4:17pm

Four days! :lol:
Doing it in the winter! :lol:
Late April to late September, taking ten to fourteen days ......... as most of us do and have done.

I was suggesting that a normal End2End at the normal time of year, for a normal cycling person, could do it at night instead of at day.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Jamesh » 15 Sep 2020, 4:47pm

My teenage son could easily do it.

Breakfast is about 3pm!!!

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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby rjb » 15 Sep 2020, 6:48pm

This could have been the ideal way for the Naked Rambler to have completed it.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Jamesh » 15 Sep 2020, 6:53pm

You could do early / late cycling splitting your day into two 40-50 mile rides with a sightseeing session in the middle.

Would work quite well if particularly warm too avoiding the heat of the day.

Also if wild camping you could set up camp and take down camp whilst dark and no one would know you were there!!

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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Mick F » 15 Sep 2020, 6:57pm

rjb wrote:This could have been the ideal way for the Naked Rambler to have completed it.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby bikepacker » 15 Sep 2020, 6:57pm

Slightly but not totally off topic,

As a Rotary Club sponsored challenge on Saturday 11th Dec 1982, I left JOG on my BMW100RS at 4.22pm. After refuelling and coffee stops at Perth, Carlisle, M6 Hilton Services and Exeter I arrived in LE at 7.54am. The RC tried to get it ratified with Guinness Records but they would not accept it as my speeds would have to be over the speed limits. Which they were. The bike performed great and it was an enjoyable but very cold ride. I was more than glad of the fairing and heat from the big twin cylinders.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Mick F » 15 Sep 2020, 7:01pm

BP,
Did Guinness not accept your record due to the speed, or did they not accept it as it wasn't a record?

I tried to get my JOGLE on the Chopper into the GBR, but they wouldn't accept it because it was a First, and therefore not a Record. Someone would have to do it faster than me to be a record.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby bikepacker » 15 Sep 2020, 7:11pm

The answer we got from them was due to speed. Because of cold and needing food I took longer at Hilton that I would have liked and got behind schedule. As the challenge was to do it in the official hours of darkness to make up time I had to ride at well over the speed limit from there to Exeter.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Enigmadick » 16 Sep 2020, 7:53am

As there would be fewer vehicles one would have less nocturnal emissions.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 16 Sep 2020, 1:50pm

Hi,
bikepacker wrote:Slightly but not totally off topic,

As a Rotary Club sponsored challenge on Saturday 11th Dec 1982, I left JOG on my BMW100RS at 4.22pm. After refuelling and coffee stops at Perth, Carlisle, M6 Hilton Services and Exeter I arrived in LE at 7.54am. The RC tried to get it ratified with Guinness Records but they would not accept it as my speeds would have to be over the speed limits. Which they were. The bike performed great and it was an enjoyable but very cold ride. I was more than glad of the fairing and heat from the big twin cylinders.

Me and my mate did it in the early 80s we didn't plan to do it we just started at lands end and started moving and then without even talking we decide to go all the way to JOG.
Biggest drawback is food, we stopped several times and it was a bit of a waste of time, if you ever try to do that sort of thing basically you just need to carry sandwich's So the only reason to stop
is to get fuel.
We were on 550 mL, I was riding a relatively new bike and one of the exhaust clamps came on done that's one bolt, Could hear a bit of puffing, just done it up and everything was okay.
Took us about 17 odd hours but it's quite easy to do it in much less if you don't stop and sit down for food.
Even then we have course were breaking the speed limit by at least 30 mile an hour plus in many places!
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby Mick F » 16 Sep 2020, 3:20pm

17 hours to do 900miles is an average speed of 53mph.

I was commuting in the early 90s from here in Gunnislake to the house that some of lived in in Ibrox, Glasgow. Once a fortnight.
Left home at 9pm and was in bed in my room before 4am = 7hrs to do the 500miles.

Did it a few times non-stop. Diesel Peugeot 205 reg number B34 ACV ......... lovely car! :D
Average speed for 500miles in 7hrs = 71.5mph ............. but once did it in a bit over 6hrs = 80odd mph!

The car had a big fuel tank, and would do 50odd MPG at high speeds on the motorway, so I reckon it could have done 600miles non-stop ........... meaning one fuel stop LEJOG, so it's easily possible to do LEJOG at an overall average of 60mph. Pick your time of day - best is overnight - and it's easily do-able.
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Re: Nocturnal End2End

Postby bikepacker » 16 Sep 2020, 5:32pm

NA. You are right about the food, I took flapjacks and mars bars but doing it in winter the cold and damp meant I needed some hot food. At Hilton I downed 3 bowls of hot soup and changed some clothing. My home at the time was only 6 miles from Hilton so at my Carlisle stop I arranged to have some fresh clothes brought to me. This was the days before mobile phones.

After leaving Hilton I had approximately 170 miles to Exeter my next stop and to get back on schedule I did it in 1 hour 47 minutes about 97mph average. The bike's cruise control was kept at 100 mph for most of the way. Totally mad I know.
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