Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

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Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby ken_1969 » 28 Jul 2011, 7:46pm

So my brother and I are off to Land's End next Friday to start our 14 day LEJOG tour.

I had a setback at the start of July - an accident with my bike rack wrecked my Brooks B17 saddle (bent one of the rails badly out of shape). I had an older Brooks Flyer which is the sprung version so I just switched to that thinking it would be fine - it's a bit heavier, but I figured with the suspension it would be a bit more forgiving over 900 miles.

Although I'd previously broken it in I hadn't been on it for well over a year. It felt fine until I did some long rides on it. Last weekend I had two long rides back to back - a 65 mile audax and then a 60 mile London To Cambridge charity ride - and towards the end of both rides I was getting quite sore on my butt.

Figured it was just me getting used used to the saddle again but then after a couple of days off the bike I was out again today for 20 miles and it was REALLY hurting - almost unbearable at one stage.

Investigated and I've got a red welt on my butt which is obviously where it's sore.

Never had saddle sores before - obviously can't afford to have this plague me next week so I need some urgent advice as to how to get rid of them fast and prevent them recurring over 900 miles in the saddle next week!

Help!

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby NUKe » 28 Jul 2011, 11:26pm

Is the brooks tensioned correctly. you could be hitting the rails if its too loose
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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby Vorpal » 28 Jul 2011, 11:30pm

For the cure, sudocrem might help. For the prevention... as the saddles are different, do you need to adjust the position or tilt a bit? Can you avoid pressure on the place where your problem occurred?

See your GP? You might have an ingrown hair or something that is the problem, rather than the saddle?

There are loads of threads about saddles, soreness and prevention on here. There may be some things you can try, but it's mainly trial & error stuff; no quick fixes.
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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby ken_1969 » 28 Jul 2011, 11:40pm

NUKe wrote:Is the brooks tensioned correctly. you could be hitting the rails if its too loose


That's a very good point - it was a pre-aged model, and it is now definitely showing signs of my sit-bone indentations deepening in the leather, which looks like it's time to tighten it a bit. That might be all I need - thanks NUKe had not considered that!

You need a special tool to adjust the tension on a Brooks saddle don't you? Anyone know where you get one?

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby Malaconotus » 28 Jul 2011, 11:43pm

Wash with Hibiscrub, draw with magnesium sulphate, get a prescription for Lymecycline or similar antibiotic from the GP (emphasise the need to get this one settled fast and to any more occurring on a long ride).

If it's your first in that many miles you are (a) lucky not to suffer like some of us and (b) unlikely to get many more occurring.

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby kennycr » 29 Jul 2011, 12:45pm

I recently did a 14-day LEJOG on a Brooks B17 saddle that had previously done around 800 miles, so it was reasonably well broken in. By about day five, however, the saddle sores were fairly painful and were starting to detract from my overall enjoyment of the run. I hadn't used anything on them at that time, which may not have been a great idea in hindsight!

After day seven I was staying at a friend's house and she suggested I try some Sudocreme that she still had lying around from when her kids were young. She gave me a small tub to take with me and I can honestly say that after about two more days of applying it before and after the ride, I had barely any problems. By the time I I guess we are all different so it may not work for everyone, but I found Sudocreme to be a real life-saver.

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby brother nathaneil » 29 Jul 2011, 1:28pm

I did a 13 day JOGLE and applied Sudocreme everyday before setting off.
On day one and two it rained almost constantly and by day three I was REALLY sore.
I found that applying Sudocreme every 15-20 miles helped and although the sores didn't clear, it remained bearable for the final 10 days!!!
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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby mill4six » 29 Jul 2011, 7:05pm

By the time I got to JOG I had a couple of holes in my perineum like little craters. Hard and raised around the edge and soft and weepy in the middle. They hurt like hell on the bike but I beleive it was the sudocrem that kept infection at bay. They healed fine when I stopped cycling 80 miles every day!

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby bigfoot » 29 Jul 2011, 9:15pm

By the time I finished there were three clicks every time I set off. Left foot, right foot & then saddle into the saddle shaped indentation.

I used sudocreme every day. Sores started to develop about Day 4, but thankfully just stayed sore and actually the early ones improved through the ride. Managed to get a whole range of new sores in alternative places by the end of the ride though I tended to use a couple of paracetemol to help take the edge off any discomfort as well. I know of friends who swear by Ibulieve gel.

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby The Mechanic » 31 Jul 2011, 11:44am

I find that using a some sort of bum cream, Arsesos, Udderly smooth etc pre ride and Sudocreme post ride is the secret to joyful multi day riding. Can I also suggest to the OP that he get another B17 pronto. And clean shorts every day
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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby ken_1969 » 1 Aug 2011, 1:54pm

The Mechanic wrote:I find that using a some sort of bum cream, Arsesos, Udderly smooth etc pre ride and Sudocreme post ride is the secret to joyful multi day riding. Can I also suggest to the OP that he get another B17 pronto. And clean shorts every day


Fortunately my bro had a "spare" B17 that I'm borrowing which should reduce the rubbing, although it's not broken in so that might provide it's own source of discomfort. Taking it out for a brief test ride today to see how it feels.

I've also stocked up on Sudocreme and chamois butt'r and I've got some travel detergent so I can wash my shorts properly. I'll be meeting the missus half way through the ride and switching to completely fresh shorts for week two as well.

Hopefully that should do the job!

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby The Mechanic » 1 Aug 2011, 2:47pm

Fingers crossed..or should that be buttocks?
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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby cavasta » 3 Aug 2011, 11:19am

+1 for Sudocreme. Just a small amount lightly rubbed around delicate/affected areas works for me. Always use it while on tour, never seem to have problems. Use it on daily commute (no showers at work).

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby ken_1969 » 23 Aug 2011, 10:29am

Made it through 900 miles, most of which with saddle sores, although I think the advice on here helped prevent them becoming a major issue.
I used sudacrem mixed with Chamois Butt'r for the rides, with Savlon antiseptic straight after showering in the evenings. I also washed my cycle shorts every night (at least the pad) to help prevent any infection.
They were painful, especially on the longer days in the saddle but I could generally get out of the saddle and adjust my position enough to get me through the day.
I also highly recommend a pain relief regime, mixing paracetamol and ibuprofen based products through the day - this helped not just the saddle pain but also muscle pain.
Thanks to everyone for their advice, hope this thread proves useful to others.

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Re: Urgent advice needed for saddle sores!

Postby cavasta » 23 Aug 2011, 10:41am

Well done! Glad to hear you survived. Saddle sores are no joke. The best thing to do now is take a complete rest from the bike, keep applying the antiseptic cream and wait for the sores to clear up and go away - which they will. Then you can get back to enjoying pain-free riding. As the adage goes: prevention is better than cure.