CTC not interested in women

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Re: CTC not interested in women

Postby mjr » 17 Feb 2017, 10:32am

Si wrote:Would you really decry the successful work being done here becauce you think that youve squandered the money from a different funding pot, on a small part of a different project in a different part of the country?

I think the question actually being asked is whether it's successful and value for money, isn't it?

It wouldn't be the first charity project to get a lot of money to support community work and the bulk gets consumed in central office staff and admin costs, with relatively little reaching the ground and some local groups getting nothing.
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Re: CTC not interested in women

Postby gaz » 17 Feb 2017, 10:48am

Paulatic wrote:... Bikes being repaired and we got that locally to me, for people, who could easily afford to pay. ...

Do you want the next Big Bike Revival to be "means tested"?
It's got nothing to do with vorsprung durch technic you know ...

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Re: CTC not interested in women

Postby Si » 17 Feb 2017, 11:05am

gaz wrote:
Paulatic wrote:... Bikes being repaired and we got that locally to me, for people, who could easily afford to pay. ...

Do you want the next Big Bike Revival to be "means tested"?


Yep...that project was about reviving bikes and getting people riding again. The people in question may well have been able to afford to fix their own bikes but they hadn't. Thus if BBR had got them riding then it had been a success in that sense. Whether it had ample returns for the money invested - I'll not comment on as I don't know what the returns were, or whether the project as a whole is exemplified by the work in one specific area (just as I pointed out that although I believe CCCs work has been successful in my area I do not have data to comment on its success elsewhere).

On the other hand the CCCs project is aimed at groups that certainly make up minorities in the world of cycling and thus is much more applicable to the thread: is CUK interested in women...who make up a minority of the cyclising population. The way that funding works is not that random organisations give CUK a bucket of money and then CUK just spends it on whatever they fancy; rather CUK put together a specific proposal, bid for a specific funding pot and then need to show that it was spent accordingly....it works like this for CUK just as it works like this for non-charity organisations. Thus even if BBR did have an unlimited river of funding (which it certainly did not - it might sound like lots to you or I on a personal level but it doesn't go very far at all when you start trying to fund a large project) none of it could just be diverted to other projects willy-nilly.

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Re: CTC not interested in women

Postby Paulatic » 17 Feb 2017, 3:30pm

gaz wrote:
Paulatic wrote:... Bikes being repaired and we got that locally to me, for people, who could easily afford to pay. ...

Do you want the next Big Bike Revival to be "means tested"?

Not at all.....I'd much prefer to see financial aid being given where it's needed and some concrete evidence the funding achieves in a meaningful way what it sets out to do.
The only thing I witnessed was a badly timed poorly executed campaign BBR in my part of Scotland. Perhaps someone elsewhere in Scotland can provide a counter view to that. The only beneficiaries I've seen is extra employment for some and extra trade for a few cycle repair businesses.
The other thing worth noting is that IMV CUK are their worst enemy with headlines claiming they've won X amount of money and control it's spend. In reality, here in Scotland anyway, it's usually been a joint claim with at least another three organisations and obviously the way it's spent is not entirely their doing.
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Re: CTC not interested in women

Postby tykeboy2003 » 22 Feb 2017, 3:13pm

We're being overrun by Robins.


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