A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

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A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby TrailRat » 31 Jul 2017, 4:39pm

I have a question to ask of the ladies, a personal one. I need your wisdom and your experience.

And it may need to be done over private channels, but that's up to how comfortable people are.

As I may have mentioned before on this group, I am transgender, and I have recently had "The Operation". I need to know what to expect when I start cycling again. Is there any advice for me? I'm not planning long audaxes. Just jaunts to the shops, go about town, little rides in the country. Nothing more than ten miles or so. I have no idea how my new anatomy will respond. I have asked on other trans groups but had very little responses.

Humbly, Thank You
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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby 531colin » 1 Aug 2017, 8:10am

https://forum.cyclinguk.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=108812.....not an overwhelming response, I'm afraid.
You could Google "Lovely bicycle blogspot female anatomy"
and "Steve Hogg sensitive issues"

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Postby Vorpal » 1 Aug 2017, 8:41am

The thread that Colin linked has links to other threads. Most of them are about issues with saddle soreness, something which women seem to suffer more than men.

Everyone is a different shape, and needs to find their own best fit for saddle, set-up etc. As most weight should be on your sit bones, you may not find that you need to make any changes. On the other hand, you may find that your saddle is no longer the correct shape for your anatomy.

Take advice from your medical specialist about when, and just have a go :) You'll soon feel if the saddle doesn't fit right, anymore. If you do need to make a change, something like the Halfords ergonomic saddle might be a place to start. Or you can get yourself fitted (by sitting on a measurement mat) at a Specialized or Bontrager dealer. Because they measure people, I think they have somewhat better than average chance of fitting well. You still have to pick the saddle type. They usually have a return policy so that you can try some saddles and see which works best.

If you have other questions and feel more comfortable using the pm function, you are welcome to send me a pm. eileithyia might be a resource, as well, if she is willing. She's a midwife.
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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby softlips » 1 Aug 2017, 5:38pm

My only connection with this surgery is asssting in one too many years ago to remember.

Please discuss when to start cycling with your surgeon. It will be possible, but I'd hate you to start too soon.

Good luck!

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Postby TrailRat » 1 Aug 2017, 5:49pm

softlips wrote:My only connection with this surgery is asssting in one too many years ago to remember.

Please discuss when to start cycling with your surgeon. It will be possible, but I'd hate you to start too soon.

Good luck!


I had my post op assessment a couple weeks ago. My surgeon said I was good to go. But thank you for your concern. :)
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A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby Heltor Chasca » 1 Aug 2017, 6:30pm

I am full of admiration for you and your openness.

It seemed like only 'yesterday' any transgender issues were silenced by fear and intolerance.

May the World keep progressing

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby eileithyia » 1 Aug 2017, 10:35pm

As said, we all have slightly different anatomy and shapes / sizes, as well as weight... all which can have an affect on how you sit on a saddle and where your pressure points are. I guess surgery or not, male, female or Tg can be incidental to that...... and many struggle to find the right saddle and position, so it might just be a case of trial and error with saddles and position...
I do know another group i am associated with has some transgender ladies, I could ask them how they have coped?
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Postby TrailRat » 2 Aug 2017, 5:53am

eileithyia wrote:I do know another group i am associated with has some transgender ladies, I could ask them how they have coped?


I have no objections, thank you. Would you object to putting a link back here, please?
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Postby eileithyia » 3 Aug 2017, 9:53am

First inital comment i have had, Recovery depends on individuals. No pain but can be uncomfortable but then so can any cycling be uncomfy after any length of time in the saddle, a case of suck it and see, despite the surgery you do not have a female pelvis and the person I have received some info from found WS saddles too uncomfy and currently rides a brooks unisex saddle.
No actual difference in the cycling, before the op cycled to work and 2-3k a year. They are now retired and doing quite a bit more cycling.
Hope this helps
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Postby Geoff.D » 7 Aug 2017, 11:09am

I found a solution to my saddle discomfort. I bought a s/h recumbent. It solved the problem, and gave me a great deal of fun, too. I went on to get a s/h recumbent trike - similarly full of fun, with the added advantage of stability. It's not a solution for everyone and has disadvantages (e.g. difficult to ride with friends on "normal" bikes). But my bum's in great shape!!

Good luck in finding a solution that suits you.

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby Middle of the road » 10 Aug 2017, 5:17pm

Hi TrailRat

I'd second what Vorpal has suggested - that we are all different and a saddle that suits some women may not suit others.

If it helps, my wife has Brooks Flyer saddles, not the women's specific model but the one designed for men, on both of her bikes and she's told me that she finds these comfortable, with no pain in her groin or soft tissue. For info, we mainly cycle 20-30 miles with the occasional longer ride.

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby TrailRat » 11 Aug 2017, 6:06am

Thank you ever so much everyone for your answers. Taking everything into consideration, and appreciate the answers. :) :)
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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby old_windbag » 11 Aug 2017, 10:52am

Heres a question Trailrat and it is interlinked with saddle choice and life in general after reassignment. During re-assignment male to female I was under the impression they leave the prostate in situ( removal has incontinence risks ). Obviously women are spared this burdensome item. So would this also play its part in your saddle choice as will you not enter old age with similar issues to ageing men wrt to this item. Also as it produces most of our seminal fluid does it cause issues not being used in it's previous capacity, hence prone to possible underuse related issues.

It may be that in modern surgery it is removed but if not it may have some bearing on saddle choice and future health checks/illnesses.

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby Middle of the road » 13 Aug 2017, 5:18pm

old_windbag wrote:Heres a question Trailrat and it is interlinked with saddle choice and life in general after reassignment. During re-assignment male to female I was under the impression they leave the prostate in situ( removal has incontinence risks ). Obviously women are spared this burdensome item. So would this also play its part in your saddle choice as will you not enter old age with similar issues to ageing men wrt to this item. Also as it produces most of our seminal fluid does it cause issues not being used in it's previous capacity, hence prone to possible underuse related issues.

It may be that in modern surgery it is removed but if not it may have some bearing on saddle choice and future health checks/illnesses.


I doubt that TrailRat as a transgender woman will enter old age with similar prostate issues to a man because part of reassignment surgery is the removal of the testes (where androgens including testosterone is produced) and the treatment for life with HRT (estrogen and anti-androgens). This has the effect of a dramatic reduction in the size of the prostate and a large reduction in the chance of developing prostate cancer.

The prostate does have other roles for cisgender men and transgender women but I will leave you to look these up for yourself :-)

By the way, with regard to prostate issues, did you mean enlargement of the prostate or cancer of the prostate. Here is a link which explains signs and symptoms;

https://prostatecanceruk.org/prostate-i ... d-prostate

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Re: A personal question, a sensitive subject. (Probably NSFW)

Postby old_windbag » 13 Aug 2017, 5:52pm

Middle of the road wrote:but I will leave you to look these up for yourself :-)


Can't quite put my finger on it :lol: . I know its alternate uses.

I read that the prostate continues growing as we age as men, hence the enlargement, I think castration a little extreme in order to shrink it down but it may allow soprano singing so opening up new avenues. As cyclists they advise not cycling for a few days prior to any tests as it can raise PSA levels and give false reading of issues. These are all things to dread going into middle age added to fading eyesight, loss of hearing, baldness, loss of teeth. :shock:

It's one of those parts that leads to many issues mid-life onward. "God/Nature" may have done some nifty design on us generally but when it comes to that part I think it was rushed out to get the job done. But we are outliving our "natural" lifespans somewhat I guess, hence finding new reliability issues on the way.

Never heard the use of cisgender before.


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