Coccyx Pain

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As a man I use a large selle smp trk saddle. It has been absolutely fine for rides upto 320 km.
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marylogic wrote: 16 Aug 2021, 10:55pm The only time I have ever suffered much with coccyx pain on a bike is when I have done longer sessions on the turbo. I tend to sit more upright on the turbo and I also don’t get out the saddle much, which I suspect is a similar situation to being a stoker. I found trying to get out the saddle more and spending more time leaning forward helped. I don’t know if either of these strategies would be an option?

Mary
HI Mary,

Thank you for your comments. My wife takes every opportunity to take her weight off the saddle, and it certainly helps but it's not enough on longer rides. I've also tried setting up her ridding position so that she's leaning further forward, therefore rotating the pelvis forward, however this puts too much weight on her wrists. As it is she wears splints on her wrists when cycling otherwise they get too painful. Basically she can't support much of her bodyweight on her hands, which only exacerbates the coccyx isssue.

Ian
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Hmm, this sounds like a tricky situation to resolve.
Do you know if your wife feels comfortable in the saddle when leaning forward? I have found on uncomfortable saddles I have ended up putting a lot more weight through my wrists effectively bracing myself against an uncomfortable saddle. If this is the case the the Specialized women’s saddles with “mimic” can be helpful, although they are not so well padded at the back
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marylogic wrote: 17 Aug 2021, 11:40pm Hmm, this sounds like a tricky situation to resolve.
Do you know if your wife feels comfortable in the saddle when leaning forward? I have found on uncomfortable saddles I have ended up putting a lot more weight through my wrists effectively bracing myself against an uncomfortable saddle. If this is the case the the Specialized women’s saddles with “mimic” can be helpful, although they are not so well padded at the back
Hi Mary,

If she leans forward, as I have suggested, it put pressure on her pubic area which she finds very uncomfortable. However if we go for the SMP TRK saddle this may not be a problem due to its design.

Ian
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Sounds like the SMP saddle might be worth a try then. FWIW I find I get less sit bone pain with more padded saddles, but obviously it’s a very individual thing.
If the SMP doesn’t work out I’d definitely recommend having a look at the specialized saddles with mimic that I mentioned - although they don’t have a cut out the mimic material is very soft at the front and they also seem to be very popular with women on the other women’s cycle forums I read.

Good luck

Mary
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marylogic wrote: 18 Aug 2021, 3:45pm Sounds like the SMP saddle might be worth a try then. FWIW I find I get less sit bone pain with more padded saddles, but obviously it’s a very individual thing.
If the SMP doesn’t work out I’d definitely recommend having a look at the specialized saddles with mimic that I mentioned - although they don’t have a cut out the mimic material is very soft at the front and they also seem to be very popular with women on the other women’s cycle forums I read.

Good luck

Mary
Thank you Mary, I'll let you know how we get on.

Ian
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Update: The SMP TRK saddle arrived and has been tested. A very noticeable improvement with regard to coccyx pain to everyone's delight. However it would appear to be too wide as my wife is complaining of chafing on the inside of her thighs! So, it's going back but I think we're going to try the medium size which measures 160mm against the large one which we tried at 177mm.

More news when we have it...
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That sounds promising, fingers crossed for you both
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Update. No coccyx pain with the new saddle - just pain everywhere else! Whet for a decent ride yesterday (50 hilly miles) and within 30 minutes I could feel my wife squirming. In the end we stopping so frequently for "bottom stops" that I swapped our saddles over, giving her my B17 Imperial, which helped her no end. So we're going back to her B17S Imperial for now, but I am wondering about modifying it by increasing the cut away towards the rear.

BTW I didn't get on very well with the SMP TRK either. Far too much padding making me sore.
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Oh dear, that doesn't sound so good! Hope your modification works
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iandusud wrote: 16 Aug 2021, 12:19pm
thirdcrank wrote: 16 Aug 2021, 12:04pm I appreciate there's an existing condition that is being aggravated by something; all I'm saying is that it's possible it may be the tandem rather than the seat.
Hi Thirdcrank,

Getting a tandem has been such wonderful transformation to our cycling I can't see us ever going back to solos for extended rides together. We did actually use our solos recently as we needed to travel by train to Sheffield and cycle at the other end. This merely served to highlight the disparity in our strength with my wife struggling up all the hills with me not breaking a sweat.

Ian
I can't add anything to do specifically with coccyx pain but my gut reaction on all these types of thread is, strong, male, regular cyclist pilot/less strong female stoker. I'm in your situation being a regular cyclist on the front of the tandem and Mrs H bravely taking up the rear. I know what saddle I want, what position I find comfortable, what to do when my saddle isn't right and what it's like to be the pilot. I've learnt the hard way but also the simply-doing-it-over-and-over-again way. I also note that it is you who is posting these queries, not your wife - it would be the same with me.

My remedy, such as it is, is perseverance. I don't think there is a single, immediate technical answer. Mrs iandusud has to thrash this one out. Great that you have the suspension seatpost and that you are trying different saddles. I would also recommend shorter rides, more frequent breaks, walking up hills, synchronised rising regularly from the saddles and (IMV most importantly) daily short rides for the time being.

Your wife (and mine) has to accept that to get comfortable takes effort, not the endurance of pain (NEVER that). That means more riding (on short rides) more changes to stem length, saddle height and bar height, more faff and more hardening up. In other words everything that we went through (and maybe she too) on our solo bikes. She might feel that the investment isn't worth it. That would be a huge shame.

One other thing that I personally would like to try is being the stoker (on a larger bike with stronger pilot). That would give us a great insight into what might be going wrong.

PS Just to add that I think 50 miles is far, far too long a ride in the present circumstances.
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