Bad nether squish!

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Cugel
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Bad nether squish!

Postby Cugel » 26 Mar 2019, 12:53pm

An alarming piece of personal reportage concerning the pulverised peep!

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... e-cyclists

I fear any ensuing discussion, as I am sensitive and faint easily.

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Re: Bad nether squish!

Postby pal » 26 Mar 2019, 1:40pm

I came here to post the same article! Definitely not one to read while eating -- but it's a really interesting piece, I thought...

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Re: Bad nether squish!

Postby 531colin » 26 Mar 2019, 9:47pm

Whereas this is "news" it isn't new.
Google "Steve Hogg sensitive issues" and "Steve Hogg more sensitive issues"
To use Hannah Dines' own phrase, she is "sitting right on the money" in the photo in the article.
Most riders get into an aero tuck using a combination of rotating their pelvis forward and having their back in flexion, so that they have to crane their neck up in order to see where they are going.
Hannah Dines' pelvis is rotated really far forward, and her back is in extension so that her head is upright. She is also sat far forward over the pedals, and the reach is short. Similar here..https://cdn.record.pt/images/2019-03/img_920x519$2019_03_26_15_52_08_1525464.jpg
In this picture http://www.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/sites/www.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/files/Hannah%20Dines.jpg she is sitting right on the nose of the saddle; her pelvis is again rotated far forward, but this time her back is straight so that her head is inclined forward.

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Re: Bad nether squish!

Postby awavey » 27 Mar 2019, 9:51pm

531colin wrote:Whereas this is "news" it isn't new.
Google "Steve Hogg sensitive issues" and "Steve Hogg more sensitive issues"
To use Hannah Dines' own phrase, she is "sitting right on the money" in the photo in the article.
Most riders get into an aero tuck using a combination of rotating their pelvis forward and having their back in flexion, so that they have to crane their neck up in order to see where they are going.
Hannah Dines' pelvis is rotated really far forward, and her back is in extension so that her head is upright. She is also sat far forward over the pedals, and the reach is short. Similar here..https://cdn.record.pt/images/2019-03/img_920x519$2019_03_26_15_52_08_1525464.jpg
In this picture http://www.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/sites/www.lifesci.dundee.ac.uk/files/Hannah%20Dines.jpg she is sitting right on the nose of the saddle; her pelvis is again rotated far forward, but this time her back is straight so that her head is inclined forward.


agreed I read the article in the Guardian, and it is something I think even the Shecret pro has covered previously so I dont think its an unknown issue in the pro ranks,Id forgotten about Steve Hoggs pieces but Ive read them before, and certainly my first reaction was well its bike fit thats the problem not gender specific saddles.Because if youve ended up in a riding position that means you are resting all your weight on your front squishy bits, then theres a fundamental setup issue thats the root cause because you arent supposed to ride like that, however much someone tells you to ride like that to be aero, and that would be the same for men or women.

now I suspect in the world of trikes for paracylists, the size and variance is even more limited than normal, do they even make female specific trike frames ? but I think Im more amazed someone on a BC funded program wouldnt have automatically been advised to go have a proper bike fit and possibly a custom frame made up,assuming the rules allow it, its just you look at those pictures and that trike looks both too big and too small at the same time and looks an incredibly awkward setup.

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Re: Bad nether squish!

Postby tatanab » 28 Mar 2019, 8:56am

awavey wrote:now I suspect in the world of trikes for paracylists, the size and variance is even more limited than normal, do they even make female specific trike frames ?

All enthusiast trike frames are custom built. So size/variance/female specific is not an issue. Many Paralympic riders use conversion axles fitted to their bike frames. In Hannah's case, the reason it looks so awkward is possibly/probably due to her particular disabilities.

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Re: Bad nether squish!

Postby Bill Reynolds » 29 Mar 2019, 8:11am

Maybe this girl should visit my topic below..."A decent saddle"...and get comfort like me...who also is disabled!