New (to me) Catrike

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belgiangoth
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New (to me) Catrike

Postby belgiangoth » 23 Dec 2020, 1:13am

I started posting about this in the photo topic, but then realised that I am less likely to get fitting feedback there.
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Proper madness - strangely it's lighter than my Speedmachine and obviously a lot easier to ride. I was a bit thrown by the seat at first - settled in to what I thought was the way to sit in it and found my shoulders against the top bar. Have now sunk right down to the edge of the seat - I almost feel that I am too big for the seat - which is unfortunate as it's part of the frame. Possibly I am just expecting a different type of fit.
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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby UpWrong » 23 Dec 2020, 8:09am

Mountain Drive or Speed Drive? I had the 2015 Catrike 700; 20" front wheels, longer wheelbase, lower BB height, higher seat height, more seat recline. So a rather different machine. Sold it becuase it was a bit too reclined and my neck was suffering. The current model has more curvature in the upper seat rails which might have suited me better, and has the seat cross-piece higher up so less likely to dig into the shoulder blades of tall riders.

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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby belgiangoth » 23 Dec 2020, 11:45am

Speed Drive? I think.
This one is molder than that - the front wheels have been upgraded to 18"
I expected that I should sit into the bottom of the well formed by the back and the seat, which puts my shoulders level with the cross-bar - a more upright position and the headrest as high as it can go. I then dropped the headrest back to its initial position and sit as far forward as possible in the trike. Very reclined but I find it comfortable to the point that I grumbled at my SPM for not reclining any further). Not tried it for a long ride though.

A real downside to it is that I now look at my SPM and think "heavy", "not sure about all that suspension", "I'm not going to use a tourer anytime soon", "I have a cargo trike for shopping" ... etc. Which means I really should be looking at a lightweight no-suspension faster bike.
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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby squeaker » 23 Dec 2020, 12:27pm

belgiangoth wrote:A real downside to it is that I now look at my SPM and think "heavy", "not sure about all that suspension", "I'm not going to use a tourer anytime soon", "I have a cargo trike for shopping" ... etc. Which means I really should be looking at a lightweight no-suspension faster bike.
Nice :) Welcome to the treadmill :lol:
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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby nobrakes » 23 Dec 2020, 12:48pm

Is this the one that was for sale on the BHPC forum? I was tempted by it myself. I didn’t know 18 inch wheels were a thing. Seemed like a good buy for the price, congrats on a nice trike.

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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby belgiangoth » 23 Dec 2020, 2:44pm

It is indeed the same. It hit the venn diagram intersection of within my limited budget and local enough to be dropped off.it is indeed very nice, the issues with a trike and a terraced house are not as bad as expected, but it does occupy three bike’s worth of space and it *is* more hassle than a bike.
18” is not that bad, SJS cycles were doing a special on inner tubes and schwalbe make Kojaks, Marathon races and Big Apples in that size.
Surely you don’t need moar bikes, I have read your bike reviews!
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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby nobrakes » 23 Dec 2020, 5:00pm

Definitely don’t need more bikes - nor do I have the cash! I’m still tempted to try stuff out though and sell on something else if I like it. Glad you bought it as now I don’t have to worry about it any more! Catrikes seem rare in the uk so I notice when one pops up.

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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby belgiangoth » 14 Jan 2021, 9:36am

Question: I tried to swap rear wheel, fitting a 26" wheel (MTB spacing). It was too tight for me to be able to fit, I faffed for ages and couldn't quite get it to fit; this made me think maybe my model has road hub spacing. But then I tried to re-install the road wheel it came with and that was a huge faff and required much swearing!
I wonder whether there is a "knack" to the rear wheel on a trike. I start from a bad position as I don't normally do rear wheels with gears, but I wonder whether the issue with the trike is that as there is little weight on the back wheel so it doesn't "drop" into place?
What are your thoughts/experience?
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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby squeaker » 14 Jan 2021, 11:41am

belgiangoth wrote:What are your thoughts/experience?
IME a 'bent trike is easier than a 'bent bike... With a trike i usually lift the rear up onto a 5l oil container to get the wheel off the ground to remove; re-fitting in the same way.
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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby UpWrong » 14 Jan 2021, 1:02pm

The 700 has road spacing and sometimes you still need to spring the chainstays to get the hub to slot in.

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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby belgiangoth » 14 Jan 2021, 1:35pm

^ There you have it, that absolutely sorts out my issue.

I found that removing the wheel was straightforward it was refitting that was the issue. Found that if I actually sat on the nack of the seat, to put my weight on the back wheel, it sat the wheel straight in good working order.

So, I have an extra 26" wheel and need to build myself a 26" or 650b rear wheel to take Shimano 9-speed.
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Re: New (to me) Catrike

Postby UpWrong » 14 Jan 2021, 7:29pm

belgiangoth wrote:^ There you have it, that absolutely sorts out my issue.

I found that removing the wheel was straightforward it was refitting that was the issue. Found that if I actually sat on the nack of the seat, to put my weight on the back wheel, it sat the wheel straight in good working order.

So, I have an extra 26" wheel and need to build myself a 26" or 650b rear wheel to take Shimano 9-speed.

To refit rear wheel, put drive end axle into dropout then splay the non-drive chain stay using fingers on the stay and thumbs on the end of the hub (not axle). Simple.