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Hi all, happy Easter [emoji235][emoji214]

Late this year in taking part in a ride from London to York to raise money for Samaritans. Does anyone have experience of taking 'bent on the train, specifically the East Coast line back to London?
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^^^ watches carefully, as we have the same bike. :wink:
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If it's a SWB bent then I think rail companies will treat it like any non-folding bike, so see their cycle booking policies. I recall booking a place in the goods van for an Anglian intercity train. East Coast mainline is likely to have different rules to other lines.
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UpWrong wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 12:06pmI recall booking a place in the goods van for an Anglian intercity train.
Anglian intercities no longer have a goods van but a short wheelbase bent will definitely fit in the new carriages' bookable bike spaces. There are three each side of the aisle with wall straps, like on the new Anglia regional trains and Thameslink, and not the 2 bike hanger cupboards used on LNER and GWR.
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mjr wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 3:31pm
UpWrong wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 12:06pmI recall booking a place in the goods van for an Anglian intercity train.
Anglian intercities no longer have a goods van but a short wheelbase bent will definitely fit in the new carriages' bookable bike spaces. There are three each side of the aisle with wall straps, like on the new Anglia regional trains and Thameslink, and not the 2 bike hanger cupboards used on LNER and GWR.
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Jdsk wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 3:41pm
mjr wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 3:31pm
UpWrong wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 12:06pmI recall booking a place in the goods van for an Anglian intercity train.
Anglian intercities no longer have a goods van but a short wheelbase bent will definitely fit in the new carriages' bookable bike spaces. There are three each side of the aisle with wall straps, like on the new Anglia regional trains and Thameslink, and not the 2 bike hanger cupboards used on LNER and GWR.
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LNER & GWR are AT300s, which LNER brand as Azuma, GWR as IET.

Anglia intercity (and Stansted and regional) now use Flirts. Thameslink use Desiro City.
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mjr wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 3:43pm ...
Anglia intercity (and Stansted and regional) now use Flirts. ....
Are "Anglia" and "Greater Anglia" the same. And assuming they are, does that mean the previous requirement to pre-book bikes (any type) on a specific train (to go in the guards van) no longer applies?

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Psamathe wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 4:27pmAre "Anglia" and "Greater Anglia" the same
No.

Current and past TOCs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... ed_Kingdom

Greater Anglia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_A ... g_company)


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Psamathe wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 4:27pm
mjr wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 3:43pm ...
Anglia intercity (and Stansted and regional) now use Flirts. ....
Are "Anglia" and "Greater Anglia" the same. And assuming they are, does that mean the previous requirement to pre-book bikes (any type) on a specific train (to go in the guards van) no longer applies?
Anglia is the franchise, GA the current operator. And you still need to book on intercity, but many guards will let extra on if there is space.

Curiously, the Stansted trains have no First or buffet and can carry 18 bikes not 6 and they are currently being used intechangably with the intercity stock, so many intercity trains have 12 unbookable bike spaces. Even once the timetable settles, there will be 2 services a day like that, moving Stansted trains for servicing at Norwich depot.
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mjr wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 4:38pm
Psamathe wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 4:27pm
mjr wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 3:43pm ...
Anglia intercity (and Stansted and regional) now use Flirts. ....
Are "Anglia" and "Greater Anglia" the same. And assuming they are, does that mean the previous requirement to pre-book bikes (any type) on a specific train (to go in the guards van) no longer applies?
Anglia is the franchise, GA the current operator.
Isn't the name of the franchise "East Anglia"?

https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... ranchising

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Jdsk wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 4:42pm
mjr wrote: 3 Apr 2021, 4:38pm Anglia is the franchise, GA the current operator.
Isn't the name of the franchise "East Anglia"?

https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... ranchising
Who really cares? It is clear which it is. And your link is broken.
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Ian was trying to understand what the different names mean. In that context the names matter.

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