CTC reported as a charity

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Richard
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CTC reported as a charity

Postby Richard » 9 Jun 2010, 2:12pm

I see the CTC is being classed as a charity - poor reporting or are the spin doctors at work?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/southeastwales/hi/people_and_places/nature/newsid_8721000/8721078.stm

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Re: CTC reported as a charity

Postby Regulator » 9 Jun 2010, 5:10pm

Richard wrote:I see the CTC is being classed as a charity - poor reporting or are the spin doctors at work?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/southeastwales/hi/people_and_places/nature/newsid_8721000/8721078.stm



Poor reporting. The CTC Trust, which runs Bike Club, is of course a charity. Personally, I think that CTC should make the difference between the Club and the Trust clearer to journalists...

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Re: CTC reported as a charity

Postby CliveA » 18 Jun 2010, 8:34am

Hello Richard, Regulator

Yes, in that BBC article, Bike Club was described as being partly run by "the cycling charity CTC" and as Regulator points out, it is indeed the CTC Charitable Trust that's involved.

I appreciate that there are strongly held views on the Club/Trust issue, but I'd suggest that the important thing here is that CTC (whichever part of the larger organisation) is being recognised for its involvement.

Regulator - You suggest "making the difference between the Club and the Trust clearer to journalists". We supply journalists with a lot of information about what we do, and they make use of that which they find most relevant. I'm not sure why "the difference between the Club and the Trust" would be important in the context of a 300 word article about a CTC project. This issue is undoubtedly important to many members, but arguably not to the wider public.

I say this without any prejudice toward either side of the Club/Trust discussion.

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Re: CTC reported as a charity

Postby EdinburghFixed » 18 Jun 2010, 9:30am

The distinction is lost on most people.

I myself was baffled to discover that the CTC was not already a charity when this whole thing blew up.

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Re: CTC reported as a charity

Postby GrahamNR17 » 18 Jun 2010, 5:00pm

If you had inside knowledge of todays newspaper - any newspaper - you'd discover that every single article contains technical inaccuracies. Alas this is newspapers, no single story they publish is completely accurate. I discovered that many years ago. The rush to fill white space is far more important than reporting the news with absolute accuracy. You shouldn't blame the CTC for anything someone else reports, it's just not possible to make journalists do their job thoroughly.

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Re: CTC reported as a charity

Postby CliveA » 18 Jun 2010, 6:22pm

GrahamNR17 - You are absolutely right about the issue of inaccuracies in news reporting.

However, I don't think BBC South East were guilty of inaccuracy. They reported that Bike Club is partly run by CTC, and this is true. The distinction between the two arms of CTC is understood and discussed by many of us, but from from an outsider's point of view, this distinction is of minimal relevance.

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Re: CTC reported as a charity

Postby belgiangoth » 28 Jun 2010, 9:34pm

If you don't like their coverage of the intricacies of the CTC you should see what passes as their coverage of Rugby League.
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Re: CTC reported as a charity

Postby Jonty » 19 Feb 2011, 9:57am

It would be interesting to find out what outside organisations and the public think the CTC is and what its public image is. Most of the occasional cyclists I meet have never heard of the CTC. When I say I'm in the CTC they say "what's that?"
"The Cyclists' Touring Club" sounds a bit antiquated and posh to me: rather like a gentlemen's club such as the Windsor Polo Club or the Bullingdon Club; however, being someone with social aspirations I'm quite happy with it.
It would be interesting to know why people joined the CTC. I heard about it relatively recently and joined it to support cycling which I consider a good cause. I thought it was a charity already. I never realized that I was joining a private club like my former squash club. I don't tour - I find foreign countries too hot, I can't speak the language, they drive on the wrong side of the road and there are too many strange insects which bite me -or use any of the facilites except this Forum, which I have found very helpful on the few technical matter I have inquired about.
I find England sufficiently foreign.
When I joined I thought I was basically giving a charitable donation just like the other good causes I support. I was therefore surprised when I stumbled into the charity/non-charity debate; however, I did try and come to an informed view with the interest of the organisation and its members at heart.
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