Cycling is so very dangerous !!

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Re: Cycling is so very dangerous !!

Postby Vorpal » 11 Jan 2019, 12:18pm

Marcus Aurelius wrote: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/173464 ... est-hears/

An interesting read, the Coroner’s comments in particular.

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Re: CYCLING IS SO DANGEROUS !!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 11 Jan 2019, 3:57pm

RickH wrote:
Marcus Aurelius wrote:As a BC ride leader you have to risk asses your routes to satisfy the insurance requirements. If you asses a part of a route as having a potential increased risk of riders falling, the mitigation could be using a lid. Then wearing a lid becomes a requirement for participation in the ride. I don’t personally include such things in my risk assessments, but I know lots of RLs that do. BC’s risk assessment for Ride Leaders on an official Guided ride does include these terms, so RLs have to wear a lid on an official Guided Ride. Personally, I’ve had a few ‘offs’ in the past, where my head has taken the brunt of the impact. Therefore I think a lid is a worthwhile thing to wear. I certainly don’t expect anyone else to wear a lid if they don’t want to. I wish they would, but I don’t try and make anyone do so.

I've not been involved for 2018/19 so things may have changed, especially as there is much more flexibility for ride leaders to organise their own routes. But, when I trained as a BC ride leader & route planner under the Skyride set up, advocating helmets as a mitigation was never mentioned as an option. Advising participants to take extra care, walk a section or use an alternative route if the conditions could be variable. Or, of course, not going that way at all & choosing a better route.


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This is part of the pre ride risk assessment I’ve just had to fill out, for an impending ride I’m leading in the Surrey Hills next week.
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Re: Cycling is so very dangerous !!

Postby mjr » 11 Jan 2019, 5:58pm

That's pretty scandalous and explains why so many BC rides end up with helmet compulsion rules.
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Re: Cycling is so very dangerous !!

Postby landsurfer » 11 Jan 2019, 6:12pm

And part of my thought process, I have not renewed with CTC this year and would never join BC ... AUDAX UK and the RSF .... are the clubs / societies i will continue to support ....
Off out on the bike in the morning, 70 miles each way, with a helmet .... wouldn't ever ride my bike without a helmet........
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Re: Cycling is so very dangerous !!

Postby RickH » 11 Jan 2019, 6:16pm

It does appear to be something added as a note by an individual rather than an official "policy", but worrying nonetheless.

Is this for a normal guided ride on benign terrain?

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Re: Cycling is so very dangerous !!

Postby mjr » 11 Jan 2019, 6:20pm

I thought "low" was the only user-entered field.
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Re: Cycling is so very dangerous !!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 11 Jan 2019, 11:29pm

mjr wrote:I thought "low" was the only user-entered field.



I really didn’t want it included. ‘Low’was as good as it gets.

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Re: Cycling is so very dangerous !!

Postby Marcus Aurelius » 11 Jan 2019, 11:33pm

RickH wrote:It does appear to be something added as a note by an individual rather than an official "policy", but worrying nonetheless.

Is this for a normal guided ride on benign terrain?


The terrain is far from “benign”, but my hand was somewhat forced on this particular inclusion.