People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

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People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby Thermostat9 » 21 Jan 2016, 4:24pm

Has this been posted? (I can't see it)

Science Magazine reports - People take more risks when wearing helmets, potentially negating safety benefits.

Who would have thought it? :mrgreen:

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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby kwackers » 21 Jan 2016, 4:54pm

If it wasn't for my helmet I wouldn't have had two kids.

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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby al_yrpal » 21 Jan 2016, 4:55pm

Speaking personally, viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10801

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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby Mike Sales » 21 Jan 2016, 5:23pm

Some people resent the implication that they take more risks when wearing a helmet. I am not quite sure why, but they seem to feel it has negative implications. I see the adjustment of risk taking in response to external factors as a basic function of every sentient organism.

May I suggest we look at whether people take fewer risks when they perceive themselves to be in more danger?
Do people drive more carefully without seatbelts? Do they give a greater margin to drivers they notice as erratic?
Do they slow down these cold mornings when the road looks icy?

Is there any good reason why this adjustment works only one way, in the direction of taking more care?
Does the driver who took things carefully this morning not speed up if tomorrow the temperature rises?

It seems to me obvious that we adjust our behaviour in response to the risks we perceive. This is a complex process, partly conscious and partly unconscious. As I said, the most basic of animals can change its behaviour in response to danger. Even an amoeba recoils from noxious substances.

There is psychological research which shows us reacting to stimuli more rapidly than is possible if the reaction were governed by our brains.

The amount of protection given by a helmet is marginal, and does not need very much change in behaviour to cancel.

In any bike trip there can be many occasions when a small miscalculation could be the cause of problems.
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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby Mick F » 21 Jan 2016, 5:24pm

If I used my chainsaw stark naked, would I be more careful than if I was wearing a full suit of armour?
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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby PhilWhitehurst » 21 Jan 2016, 5:57pm

Helmets can reduce traumatic brain injury by upto 20%

I clicked on that link and it was for football helmets not cycling helmets, how sneaky was that as most won't click through.

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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby reohn2 » 21 Jan 2016, 6:19pm

Mick F wrote:If I used my chainsaw stark naked, would I be more careful than if I was wearing a full suit of armour?


Did you have to post that? :?
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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby reohn2 » 21 Jan 2016, 6:21pm

PhilWhitehurst wrote:Helmets can reduce traumatic brain injury by upto 20%

I clicked on that link and it was for football helmets not cycling helmets, how sneaky was that as most won't click through.


Man searches for football helmet before going to bed :shock:
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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby PhilWhitehurst » 21 Jan 2016, 6:24pm

And maybe the football helmet was covering the balls. Traumatic indeed

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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby Mick F » 21 Jan 2016, 7:10pm

reohn2 wrote:
Mick F wrote:If I used my chainsaw stark naked, would I be more careful than if I was wearing a full suit of armour?
Did you have to post that? :?
My mind's eye is searching for a blindfold,and I'm now frightened of dreaming when go to sleep tonight :shock:
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I have no intention of being stark naked ....................... in the garden whilst chainsawing. :lol:

My point was, that no matter what you were doing, if you have no protection at all, would you be more careful?
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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby [XAP]Bob » 21 Jan 2016, 9:31pm

People don't get it, even when you ask if they'd cycle without a helmet ... Oh no.

Then you are taking more risk with the magic hat..... No....

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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby landsurfer » 21 Jan 2016, 10:46pm

PhilWhitehurst wrote:Helmets can reduce traumatic brain injury by upto 20%.

Can or Does ... one is nonsense and the other is science ... science is provable and true, the other is a belief ... like Jesus or god .. I'll stick with science..
Science states that risk compensation exists and can be measured ... the safer we perceive ourselves to be the more risk we take .. Volvo drivers of the 70's and 80's are a case in point .... I think this has been discussed to death on other pages in this forum......
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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby reohn2 » 21 Jan 2016, 10:55pm

Mick F wrote:
My point was, that no matter what you were doing, if you have no protection at all, would you be more careful?


My dreamtime is threatened :shock:




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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby bovlomov » 22 Jan 2016, 12:46am

Mick F wrote:If I used my chainsaw stark naked, would I be more careful than if I was wearing a full suit of armour?

Chainsaw? Ha - that's nothing! Have you tried playing accordion naked?

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Re: People take more risks when wearing helmets.....

Postby TonyR » 22 Jan 2016, 7:02am

bovlomov wrote:Chainsaw? Ha - that's nothing! Have you tried playing accordion naked?


The Who warned against that. You won't sleep at night if you do :wink: