pjclinch wrote:Tonyf33 wrote:After seeing master Thomas's glancing blow with a telegraph pole (or somesuch) at last years TdF pretty much all the pelaton & Bikeradar/other race orientated forum users will have you believe he would have died a thousand deaths without it.
As opposed to him likely not hitting the pole with his head at all because he couldn't shy it away enough to avoid the glancing blow due to the extra diameter of his noggin (much of the blow was on his upper torso thst I could see) and that by time he hit the pole he was doing much less than 15mph anyways.
Or there is a possibility somewhere in between which does actually fit the case the damn things are designed for, something like G took a bit of a whack, but rather than lose 5 minutes due to waiting for the stars to stop circling his head he lost less than 1 from being able to get back on quicker.
There's a lot of ground between Saving Your Life and Causing Avoidable Accidents
Pro riders are pretty hardy and will get back on with hideous road rash, but if you're dazed you really do have to wait a bit for the adrenaline to see you through. So a helmet, like a hairnet before it, can help with just getting back on and getting back in. This is not a factor where serious injury is on the cards, of course, and not something that obviously requires everyone to wear one.
I think I made it pretty clear that's what I said, I stated that the rider was doing sub 15mph and the helmet took a glancing blow and that it wasn't a case of he going to die without the helmet (unlike the many race orientated forums).
IMO I don't think his head would have hit the pole if it weren't for the helmet but that's open for debate, the relatively minor low speed glancing blow still severely damaged his helmet which shows how fragile they really are.
mjr wrote: Except that, as Tonyf33 points out, the impact seemed to be to his shoulder/torso rather than his helmet. I can't play the video (itv uses the rubbish brightcove video player) but the still on http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/video-g ... graph-pole shows an undamaged hat.
The helmet was actually quite badly damaged from what I recall seeing of it after the race finished, it was more toward the side/rear, still reckon he would have missed the pole without one anyway.