School paying children to wear helmet

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Re: School paying children to wear helmet

Postby Graham » 31 Mar 2017, 10:11am

Walkodile . . . . . . the inventor received an MBE for "Services to Child Safety". . . . . .

We have a systemic & cultural problem.

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Re: School paying children to wear helmet

Postby Bonefishblues » 31 Mar 2017, 10:15am

How do you mean?

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Re: School paying children to wear helmet

Postby Bez » 31 Mar 2017, 10:44am

Bonefishblues wrote:How do you mean?


The systemic and cultural problem? A refusal to acknowledge the sources of danger and implement danger reduction, and to instead give those not presenting that danger the impossible responsibility for "safety" through means which do little if anything other than reinforce this powerocracy.

Admittedly, more generally keeping track of a bunch of school-/nurserychildren is a different social issue ;)

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Re: School paying children to wear helmet

Postby mjr » 31 Mar 2017, 10:51am

Graham wrote:As soon as one organises anything in a public place these days, there becomes a responsible person who can pursued for negligence.
When in court, it is necessary to demonstrate that the risks were foreseen and addressed by avoidance or reasonable mitigation measures.
In addition, if you don't do that you don't get insurance cover.

That's both court case FUD and insurance FUD rolled into one.

Graham wrote:Whether the research papers call into question the use of Hivisisisis or not : that is where we are now.

I suspect that if someone puts hi-vis on people but doesn't take other more effective reasonable mitigation measures, then they're leaving themselves open to prosecution because the research suggests hi-vis is ineffective. I think it's incredibly likely that a H&H school cycle training programme would have been sued already if cycling wasn't basically a safe activity anyway.

Bez wrote:If you hate walking buses then try googling "walkodile"…

(Be sure to have a large brandy to hand to calm the nerves afterwards.)

It reminds me of slaves manacled into ships. I guess it's marginally better than the similar cross-traffic tripwires that some schools use (basically ropes with handles on) in that the kids don't have the option of giving way to people travelling at right-angles when it'll trip them up.
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Re: School paying children to wear helmet

Postby Bonefishblues » 31 Mar 2017, 10:54am

Slaves on ships eh :lol:

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Re: School paying children to wear helmet

Postby mjr » 31 Mar 2017, 10:59am

Bonefishblues wrote:Slaves on ships eh :lol:

Yeah, that may say more about my opinion of what most schools are doing (I went to a slightly unusual state primary school and many years later taught FE/HE) than anything else ;-)
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Re: School paying children to wear helmet

Postby Bonefishblues » 31 Mar 2017, 11:00am

mjr wrote:
Bonefishblues wrote:Slaves on ships eh :lol:

Yeah, that may say more about my opinion of what most schools are doing (I went to a slightly unusual state primary school and many years later taught FE/HE) than anything else ;-)

I hope you were thrashed daily. :P