Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby [XAP]Bob » 28 Oct 2016, 9:03am

So many creative ways to tell people hat they don't need to drive in the distance they can see to be clear (not just can't see to be obstructed).

I also have to recall the complicator's gloves...
http://thedailywtf.com/articles/The_Com ... 7_s_Gloves

Retro reflective patches on gloves/cuffs should be far more reliable, and at least as effective.
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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby bovlomov » 28 Dec 2017, 1:38pm

Oh dear! Indicators revived in The Guardian.
As bikes become increasingly advanced, there is one area that remains dangerously low-fi: signalling. The law still requires cyclists to indicate with their arms, but that’s not always effective, as Guy Lester, founder of Cyndicate, discovered in 2014. He was involved in a “very near miss” with a cyclist and car, who hadn’t seen the signal.

Lots of scientific research there. "Dangerously low-fi". He was involved in a “very near miss”.

it lights an arrow on the rider’s backpack

Not sure how drivers will process that. It's not something the Highway Code has prepared them for, and doesn't seem to comply with any known standards. If you use this device instead of putting an arm out, might it not be used as evidence against you in the event of an accident?

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby thirdcrank » 28 Dec 2017, 2:51pm

I assume that's advertorial ie the Grauniad has canvassed companies who might stump up to have their products promoted in its once-respected pages.

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby bovlomov » 28 Dec 2017, 3:22pm

thirdcrank wrote:I assume that's advertorial ie the Grauniad has canvassed companies who might stump up to have their products promoted in its once-respected pages.

Yes. The link is theguardian.com/business-to-business/...

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Hmmm. It is produced to the same high standards as the news items. Insert your own joke.

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby thirdcrank » 28 Dec 2017, 3:41pm

It seems to me that the most attractive thing from the POV of the advertiser, sponsor or whatever they want to call them is the publication of a link to their website in a place which they cannot otherwise access (ie otherwise than paying up.) An advertiser's own www isn't subject to editorial independence.

This isn't restricted to one newspaper, of course. They all have their metaphorical backs to the wall. It's just that some titles like to portray themselves as being above that type of thing.

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby bovlomov » 28 Dec 2017, 4:42pm

thirdcrank wrote:It seems to me that the most attractive thing from the POV of the advertiser, sponsor or whatever they want to call them is the publication of a link to their website in a place which they cannot otherwise access (ie otherwise than paying up.) An advertiser's own www isn't subject to editorial independence.

This isn't restricted to one newspaper, of course. They all have their metaphorical backs to the wall. It's just that some titles like to portray themselves as being above that type of thing.

It's a vicious circle. As the paper's news content declines, fewer of the old-style readers are prepared to pay for the hard copy, and the business model necessarily moves towards money-for-clicks. I don't know what the answer is, but as someone who used to buy the Guardian every day (even though its editorial decisions annoyed me), and now doesn't buy it at all, I am part of the problem that the paper has to solve.

I wonder if the deal with the sponsors forbids comments being opened on those pages. Shame!

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby Psamathe » 28 Dec 2017, 4:58pm

I used to think that the Blaze thing http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/introducing-blaze-a-laser-that-projects-bike-image-onto-road-30459/ but rather projected onto the road behind the cyclist - sort of "extends" the bike further back hopefully keeping drivers further back. Or https://www.amazon.com/Huluwa-Bicycle-Cycling-Projector-Resistant/dp/B06ZYZ51SZ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8.

Not used one (I don't really ride at night anyway) but not for alerting drivers to see you but rather to may yourself appear larger and taking more road space encouraging drivers to give you more clearance.

But I've no idea if they work.

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby brynpoeth » 28 Dec 2017, 10:13pm

pjclinch wrote:For a cap to cycle in I prefer... a cycle cap. Brim snaps up for heads-down work and doesn't catch the wind so much when upright, but still keeps a lot of sun and rain out of eyes.

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Where might one buy a cap with the peak at the back? :wink:
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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby Steady rider » 28 Dec 2017, 10:28pm

Aldi's running caps with front lights are quite good (they need a red rear light to be better for cycling in)
https://www.aldi.co.uk/one-size-unisex- ... 8014235900

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby kwackers » 29 Dec 2017, 11:00am

Indicators are an interesting one.

There's no doubt in my mind that indicating on a bike is a waste of time, I do it but it's routinely ignored. Cars will try to overtake regardless, when turning right it's too easy to end up sat on the pavement opposite the junction because they wouldn't ease off and let you move across.

I get around it by indicating and moving over at the same time (keeping an eye on where the traffic is of course). By leaving my right arm outstretched I can quickly make it so they have to move into the opposite lane to overtake and that's the point at which the majority decide to let you move out.

But if a bicycle had motorcycle style indicators would drivers be more inclined to let them move out? I'm thinking that the response would be automatic since it would work and look just like a motorcycle.

I can't say I want to fit them, it's a slippery slope too far imo.
Bicycles shouldn't need stupid amounts of technology and protective gear, they're simple machines travelling at a fast jogging pace.
But I'd be interested in knowing.

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby Audax67 » 29 Dec 2017, 11:13am

All the built-in LEDs in the world are as nowt when you put a rain cover over your lid. Unless it's a transparent shower cap*, of course.

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Re: Plastic hat with flashing LED indicator lights

Postby thirdcrank » 29 Dec 2017, 12:37pm

pjclinch wrote:For a cap to cycle in I prefer... a cycle cap. Brim snaps up for heads-down work and doesn't catch the wind so much when upright, but still keeps a lot of sun and rain out of eyes. ...


Something like this:
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I've still got a Peugeot BP one exactly like that hidden away somewhere in the loft from my posing days :oops: but AFAIK, the main reason was to display the sponsors' names and logos whenever the rider's face was pictured. Can also be worn back-to-front (see above.) An early contribution to the type of alternative advertising that has led to the print media's present difficulties? :lol: