pjclinch wrote:mikeymo wrote:mattsccm wrote:"Surely professional exposures to hazards of that nature should be properly assessed and regulated by the HSE".
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Surely just the opposite. No one but the individual should have any decision what so ever in that individual's safety.
Just to be clear, are you talking just about cycling helmets and football headers?
Or do you think that "No one but the individual should have any decision what so ever in that individual's safety" in any context?
Do you include children in that? Should they be allowed to make their own decisions about safety? The mentally ill? How about employees who are asked by their employer to work on unguarded machinery? Should that still be up to the "individual" employee to make their own decisions about safety?
Good questions.
In the cycle training community for training children, helmet use is not down to the individual. Parents/carers make the decision, noting that a school/local authority providing training is in loco parentis and can (and very often does) make that decision. I don't think the idea of parents making safety decisions for their children (including the decision to let them decide for themselves) is controversial.
When you get past children to adults it typically comes down to contract small print. If my small print says I'm uninsured if you don't wear a lid (British Cycling's small print says this, which is why their events require lids) and I need to be insured to give you the training as a business transaction covered by the contract then the decision isn't so much "it's up to me whether I wear a lid" as "it's up to me whether I take the training under these pre-stated contractual conditions".
Pete.
My question was directed at mattsccm. It is not clear from his statement whether he is talking about safety and cycle helmet use, or safety in general.