Helmet may actually have saved a life...

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby brooksby » 1 Aug 2018, 10:16am

brynpoeth wrote:.. &c.. speeding crime is the greatest cause of "accidents"


I thought it was all due to those cars reported in the papers which can apparently leave the road / roll over / break into someone's front room without apparently there being any human interaction at all (like KITT or Herbie, as far as the papers would have it).

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby hondated » 5 Aug 2018, 12:41pm

[XAP]Bob wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/triathlon/44978252

From the description the helmet actuallyndisnwhatbitnwas designed to do (crushed) and they guy still ended up with a halo bolted to his head for three months...

Sorry to read this Bob as I didnt know Tim had suffered this accident. Back in the day he was one of our great triathletes so I hope he fully recovers and get to where he should be in his age group.

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby hondated » 5 Aug 2018, 12:58pm

It really doesn't matter whether they save lives or not as in todays society if your not wearing one your not a proper cyclist, end of. :lol:
Discuss :wink:

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby Mick F » 5 Aug 2018, 4:52pm

Mick F wrote:I don't care.
I still don't care.

Helmets?
Do and wear what you want. I don't care.
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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby Cunobelin » 5 Aug 2018, 5:56pm

hondated wrote:It really doesn't matter whether they save lives or not as in todays society if your not wearing one your not a proper cyclist, end of. :lol:
Discuss :wink:


I ride recumbents, folders, tricycles and cargo bikes / trikes


For these reasons I have never been a “proper cyclist” anyway

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby brynpoeth » 5 Aug 2018, 8:34pm

hondated wrote:It really doesn't matter whether they save lives or not as in todays society if your not wearing one your not a proper cyclist, end of. :lol:
Discuss :wink:

We have bike-shaped objects
Where might one get a helmet-shaped object? :wink:
Cycling - of course, but it is far better on a Gillott..alternative facts welcome

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby [XAP]Bob » 8 Aug 2018, 8:38am

brynpoeth wrote:
hondated wrote:It really doesn't matter whether they save lives or not as in todays society if your not wearing one your not a proper cyclist, end of. :lol:
Discuss :wink:

We have bike-shaped objects
Where might one get a helmet-shaped object? :wink:

Any ‘cycle’ shop - they’re just labelled helmets.
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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby Funeraldirector » 26 Aug 2018, 7:12am

Quote from the coroner ‘If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive.’

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby brynpoeth » 26 Aug 2018, 7:24am

Funeraldirector wrote:Quote from the coroner ‘If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive.’

I am not so scared of dying
I am scared of surviving seriously injured and crippled, spending decades in care unable to communicate my wish to be put out of my misery
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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby pwa » 26 Aug 2018, 7:53am

Funeraldirector wrote:Quote from the coroner ‘If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive.’

At the very least the word "probably" belongs in there. Nobody could be 100% sure about something like that.

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby Phil Fouracre » 26 Aug 2018, 8:42am

Wrong, magic hats have all sorts of powers! Including the capacity to make otherwise intelligent people say stupid things :-)
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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby Cunobelin » 26 Aug 2018, 10:18am

brynpoeth wrote:
Funeraldirector wrote:Quote from the coroner ‘If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive.’

I am not so scared of dying
I am scared of surviving seriously injured and crippled, spending decades in care unable to communicate my wish to be put out of my misery


This goes back to the ill informed scaremongering that forms far too much of the pro-helmet debate

The fact is that if you are to attend any hospital then the number of people who are " surviving seriously injured and crippled, spending decades in care unable to communicate my wish to be put out of my misery' will not be cyclists, but pedestrians, car drivers, people who have been drinking, elderly etc. Cyclists are actually rare when it comes to the total picture

Yet everyone seems to accept this large majority of head injuries, as though the pain, trauma, effect on the individual and families is some how less or doesn't matter because they were not on a bike!

Sheer hypocrisy

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby Cunobelin » 26 Aug 2018, 10:21am

pwa wrote:
Funeraldirector wrote:Quote from the coroner ‘If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive.’

At the very least the word "probably" belongs in there. Nobody could be 100% sure about something like that.




It reminds me of those "Things you will never hear" jokes

Things you will never hear a Coroner say about a pedestrian/ assault / car accident / accident in a pub........... If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby NATURAL ANKLING » 26 Aug 2018, 10:45am

Hi,
brynpoeth wrote:
Funeraldirector wrote:Quote from the coroner ‘If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive.’

I am not so scared of dying
I am scared of surviving seriously injured and crippled, spending decades in care unable to communicate my wish to be put out of my misery

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Re: Helmet may actually have saved a life...

Postby Cunobelin » 26 Aug 2018, 11:07am

NATURAL ANKLING wrote:Hi,
brynpoeth wrote:
Funeraldirector wrote:Quote from the coroner ‘If he had been wearing a helmet he’d be in hospital but he’d be alive.’

I am not so scared of dying
I am scared of surviving seriously injured and crippled, spending decades in care unable to communicate my wish to be put out of my misery

+1



Given that 60% of head injuries are alcohol related, and 34% from assaults....does the fear extend to going down to a city centre pub on a Saturday night


The fear of these injuries whilst cycling is irrational given the incidence