"Denialism" and cycle helmets

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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Cunobelin » 27 Oct 2018, 9:33pm

brynpoeth wrote:
Flinders wrote:..
The horse-riding community has a far more accepting view of helmets, which is surprising in a lot of ways, given the demographic and risk factors involved. That means that good design is encouraged, and standards have risen a lot over time.

Why is the difference surprising? Helmet manufacturers want to sell as many as possible whether cycle helmets, caving or riding helmets, that is the same $$!

There are two big differences, one can nearly always control ones cycle but one never knows if a horse may bolt or go crazy, on a horse one is much higher than a cycle

Could one wear a riding helmet when cycling? Or a cycle helmet when riding?


Interesting arguments as to whet your priority is.

In both cases a full face motorcycle helmet would work (possibly)

Cyclists tend to be more physically active than a rider, so the helmet is lighter and has ventilation. The ventilation causes issues that compromise its structure and function, whilst riding helmets tend to be heavier, and without the weaknesses

Horses for courses?

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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby landsurfer » 28 Oct 2018, 6:42am

One big advantage of bicycles over horses is that once your have come off you bike it doesn't then trample you for good measure ........ :)
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby brynpoeth » 28 Oct 2018, 7:07am

There are similarities too, mind

"Ceffyl haearn" (iron horse) is Welsh for cycle
Cycling-of course, but it is far better on a Gillott
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Vorpal » 28 Oct 2018, 7:11am

And a bikes don't buck you off, either. :lol:

On the other hand, I never wore a helmet when riding horses until the last few years. I might suspect that we would find the same mixed evidence for equestrian helmets that there is for cycling helmets.
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby brynpoeth » 28 Oct 2018, 8:05am

Vorpal wrote:And a bikes don't buck you off, either. :lol:

On the other hand, I never wore a helmet when riding horses until the last few years. I might suspect that we would find the same mixed evidence for equestrian helmets that there is for cycling helmets.

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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Mick F » 28 Oct 2018, 8:57am

The Lone Ranger and Tonto never wore helmets.
Neither did John Wayne or Clint Eastwood or Roy Rogers.

Anyone remember My Friend Flicka?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Friend ... (TV_series)

Or Champion the Wonder Horse?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champion_the_Wonder_Horse

No helmets to be seen.
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby landsurfer » 28 Oct 2018, 12:18pm

Remember them both... and Daktari and flipper ... time to retire ... :)
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Mick F » 28 Oct 2018, 6:46pm

Clarence, the cross-eyed lion never wore a helmet either! :lol:
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Vorpal » 28 Oct 2018, 6:52pm

brynpoeth wrote:
Vorpal wrote:And a bikes don't buck you off, either. :lol:

On the other hand, I never wore a helmet when riding horses until the last few years. I might suspect that we would find the same mixed evidence for equestrian helmets that there is for cycling helmets.

Why did you start wearing a h****t when riding a horse?

The only time I ride these days is at riding centres that require them.
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Mick F » 28 Oct 2018, 6:59pm

Vorpal wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:
Vorpal wrote:And a bikes don't buck you off, either. :lol:

On the other hand, I never wore a helmet when riding horses until the last few years. I might suspect that we would find the same mixed evidence for equestrian helmets that there is for cycling helmets.

Why did you start wearing a h****t when riding a horse?

The only time I ride these days is at riding centres that require them.
Well ........... that tells you a story?
Try going on an organised BC bike ride without a helmet?

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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Vorpal » 28 Oct 2018, 7:27pm

Mick F wrote:
Vorpal wrote:
brynpoeth wrote:Why did you start wearing a h****t when riding a horse?

The only time I ride these days is at riding centres that require them.
Well ........... that tells you a story?
Try going on an organised BC bike ride without a helmet?

viewtopic.php?f=41&t=122076&start=15

yeah, I know. The only reason I have a helmet these days is because I occasionally go on a ride where they are required.
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Mick F » 28 Oct 2018, 7:35pm

When were horse-riding helmets invented, and where first used?
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Vorpal » 28 Oct 2018, 11:20pm

Roman cavalry? :wink:
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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Cunobelin » 29 Oct 2018, 6:39am

Roy did wear a Hi-Viz yellow shirt though

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Re: "Denialism" and cycle helmets

Postby Cunobelin » 29 Oct 2018, 6:43am

The other difference between equestrian helmets is that equestrian head gear was first fashion driven,,,, Bowler and top hats, then became more protective

Cycle helmets are the opposites as they started off "safe" and became less "safe" and protective due to fashion