Mick F wrote:I doubt very much that a talented footballer who NEVER headed a ball actually exists to prove the point.
Goalies might make for an interesting control group?
Mick F wrote:I doubt very much that a talented footballer who NEVER headed a ball actually exists to prove the point.
“THE Transport and Health Study Group completed an extensive review of cycling for its book Health on the Move 2. We concluded against the promotion of cycle helmets and strongly against their compulsion.
“One of the main reasons is that the risks of cycling are in the same range as for walking or driving. Young males face higher risks as drivers. A mile of cycling is typically safer than a mile of walking.
“In addition, the health benefits of cycling are large with the daily cycling benefits to health as much as giving up cigarette smoking.
“Helmet laws have not noticeably reduced serious head injuries, except by reducing cycling.
“An excessive focus on helmets adds ‘fear’ to the obstacles hindering a cycling revival.”
Malcolm Wardlaw,
executive member,
Transport & Health Study Group
Mick F wrote:Just read that about footballers, thanks.
Question though.
If footballers are more likely to suffer from early onset dementia, is that because of football and heading, or are the talented footballers going to suffer because that's the way their brains are wired in the first place.
I doubt very much that a talented footballer who NEVER headed a ball actually exists to prove the point.
The way I understand it, dementia isn't a "caught" disease, but one that is already there and pre-destined ........... and that nobody really knows where it comes from.
Cunobelin wrote:Mick F wrote:Just read that about footballers, thanks.
Question though.
If footballers are more likely to suffer from early onset dementia, is that because of football and heading, or are the talented footballers going to suffer because that's the way their brains are wired in the first place.
I doubt very much that a talented footballer who NEVER headed a ball actually exists to prove the point.
The way I understand it, dementia isn't a "caught" disease, but one that is already there and pre-destined ........... and that nobody really knows where it comes from.
There are links between brain injury and Alzheimer's which is where the footballers come in. This article from the Alzheimer's Association discusses this, and in particular something called "Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy" This is a deeper article about CTE
Mick F wrote:There are many thousands of dementia sufferers today who have never had any head trauma at all.
There could very well be a link, but it must be a very tenuous link.
If you're going to get it, you'll get it.
Mrs Mick F's mother and grandmother, and my father too. We could see it coming many years before they were showing medical signs and we even predicted it with Mrs Mick F's mother, but no one in the family would believe us.
Cunobelin wrote:Mick F wrote:Just read that about footballers, thanks.
Question though.
If footballers are more likely to suffer from early onset dementia, is that because of football and heading, or are the talented footballers going to suffer because that's the way their brains are wired in the first place.
I doubt very much that a talented footballer who NEVER headed a ball actually exists to prove the point.
The way I understand it, dementia isn't a "caught" disease, but one that is already there and pre-destined ........... and that nobody really knows where it comes from.
There are links between brain injury and Alzheimer's which is where the footballers come in. This article from the Alzheimer's Association discusses this, and in particular something called "Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy" This is a deeper article about CTE
Marcus Aurelius wrote:The ‘science’ is in my favour...
Mike Sales wrote:Here are some more "lone voices" who do not accept helmet orthodoxy.“THE Transport and Health Study Group completed an extensive review of cycling for its book Health on the Move 2. We concluded against the promotion of cycle helmets and strongly against their compulsion.
“One of the main reasons is that the risks of cycling are in the same range as for walking or driving. Young males face higher risks as drivers. A mile of cycling is typically safer than a mile of walking.
“In addition, the health benefits of cycling are large with the daily cycling benefits to health as much as giving up cigarette smoking.
“Helmet laws have not noticeably reduced serious head injuries, except by reducing cycling.
“An excessive focus on helmets adds ‘fear’ to the obstacles hindering a cycling revival.”
Malcolm Wardlaw,
executive member,
Transport & Health Study Group
[url]https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/transport/should-safety-helmets-be-made-compulsory-no-1-2335355 [/url]
What really irks is the people who see helmet discussion as futile and boring
Wanlock Dod wrote:No self respecting church goer would abandon their faith simply because someone had found a few “scientific” studies claiming that there was no evidence to support their beliefs. It matters not which church they worship at. Ramen.
It is interesting to observe in these discussions that there is only ever one side which actually puts forward said “scientific” evidence, and only one side which resorts to “playing the man not the ball”.Marcus Aurelius wrote:The ‘science’ is in my favour...
I am also looking forward to this “science” being identified.
tim-b wrote:HiWhat really irks is the people who see helmet discussion as futile and boring
It's not that (and it's often lively ), but I do find the constant pejorative references to "foam hats", "plastic hats", etc puerile and boring. Those terms wouldn't be acceptable in a genuinely scientific paper and are a turn-off for many
BTW I finished watching an episode (the episode?) of Helimeds this morning and the young lad's interview at the end was pretty powerful stuff. I realise that we don't see the evidence, but most people won't be looking for that. The argument game will have to be raised, but I don't see it as an issue as we came through an election without the increasingly desperate politicians so much as breathing the H-word
Regards
tim-b