Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

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Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby downfader » 2 Oct 2010, 8:31pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... lised.html

From the article its easy to forget just how many people have been using them. Several thousand journeys already isnt it?

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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby [XAP]Bob » 3 Oct 2010, 8:06am

In two separate incidents, the cyclists, who were not wearing protective hear gear, were rushed to hospital where they received emergency brain scans after after crashing in a refuse truck and falling off the hire bikes.


So in two separate incidents they both crashed inside a bin lorry?

That article needs a proof reader, and an editor - and maybe reference to a statistician.
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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby bovlomov » 3 Oct 2010, 11:41am

Note, 'emergency brain scans', not emergency treatment. They were both hospitalised only in the sense that they went to the hospital and underwent some tests.

If they had needed treatment, would that not have been reported? Could the story here be 'Two people bashed their heads but incurred no long- or medium-term effects'?

Has anyone seen a more complete analysis anywhere else?

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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby downfader » 3 Oct 2010, 12:10pm

It is pretty bad journalism, but thats what we've come to expect from the Mail (who have a proven track record of anti-cycling stories). Reading between the lines is enough to realise that a) this seems to be a bit of a case of people not watching what they were doing and b) its undeniably rare.

Someone told me theres already been 15,000 journeys made by these bikes since they were set up.

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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby meic » 3 Oct 2010, 12:16pm

The fact that they crashed is not a concern.
If they get killed and had a helmet on, then that is OK by Headway

but to crash without a helmet, is unforgivable.

The more successful that Boris bikes become the more cycle crashes we will see.
A more sensible article would be
"lives saved as inattentive road users took to cycles instead of driving."
"Yet another life was saved today because Mr X chose to use a Boris Bike today rather than driving to work, so when he had his crash no harm was done as was proven by the headscan at the hospital."
" These non fatal crashes prove yet again that getting on your bike SAVES lives, every year X,000 lives are taken by motorists. So far Boris bikes alone must have saved a life this year already!!"
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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby ozzage » 3 Oct 2010, 3:14pm

Just to clarify the stats mentioned above. There have been now (extrapolating slightly from previously released figures) more than 900,000 journeys so far, averaging about 18,500 per day. This is according to figures released as various points until now.

TFL reported, when that article came out, that there had been 6 injuries in the (at that time) 750,000 journeys made. Of those, 2 seem to have been at least "semi-serious" but there is a suspicious lack of information about them which probably means that they had their noggins scanned, were given a lollypop and sent home fine.

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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby downfader » 3 Oct 2010, 4:55pm

ozzage wrote:Just to clarify the stats mentioned above. There have been now (extrapolating slightly from previously released figures) more than 900,000 journeys so far, averaging about 18,500 per day. This is according to figures released as various points until now.

TFL reported, when that article came out, that there had been 6 injuries in the (at that time) 750,000 journeys made. Of those, 2 seem to have been at least "semi-serious" but there is a suspicious lack of information about them which probably means that they had their noggins scanned, were given a lollypop and sent home fine.


Per day???? :shock:

Wow. I got that one wrong. :lol:

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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby Cunobelin » 3 Oct 2010, 5:27pm

downfader wrote:
ozzage wrote:Just to clarify the stats mentioned above. There have been now (extrapolating slightly from previously released figures) more than 900,000 journeys so far, averaging about 18,500 per day. This is according to figures released as various points until now.

TFL reported, when that article came out, that there had been 6 injuries in the (at that time) 750,000 journeys made. Of those, 2 seem to have been at least "semi-serious" but there is a suspicious lack of information about them which probably means that they had their noggins scanned, were given a lollypop and sent home fine.


Per day???? :shock:

Wow. I got that one wrong. :lol:


We had assumed you were a reporter!

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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby downfader » 3 Oct 2010, 5:42pm

Cunobelin wrote:We had assumed you were a reporter!


:lol:

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Re: Boris Biker's Brain's Bashed

Postby Nutsey » 3 Oct 2010, 7:14pm

Safety deniers! Helmet compulsion. Cmon its the 21st century!