Magic hats in France

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Magic hats in France

Postby andrewk » 4 Jul 2014, 11:57pm

Are magic hats obligatory in France?

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby andrewjoseph » 5 Jul 2014, 12:24am

If I knew what you were talking about I might be able to answer. :oops:
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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby francovendee » 5 Jul 2014, 7:45am

no compulsion as an individual but may be needed if out with a club ride.

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby Graham » 5 Jul 2014, 1:44pm

magic hats = plastic hats for cyclists

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby andrewk » 9 Jul 2014, 9:25am

Thank you for your answers, thankfully I will be spared from having to wear a pudding basin.

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby BigFoz » 15 Jul 2014, 8:52pm

Having just come back from 3 weeks in France, the use of "magic hats" was split approximately 60/40 in favour of "sans hat du magique"...

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby TonyR » 15 Jul 2014, 9:03pm

magic hats = plastic HGV deflector

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby Thomas125 » 16 Jul 2014, 8:58am

At the risk of turning this into one of THOSE notorius helmet threads :mrgreen: I think they are as much about not concussing yourself if you flip rather than protecting you against 20 tonnes of lorry.
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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby [XAP]Bob » 16 Jul 2014, 9:40am

Thomas125 wrote:At the risk of turning this into one of THOSE notorius helmet threads :mrgreen: I think they are as much about not concussing yourself if you flip rather than protecting you against 20 tonnes of lorry.

Given that they offer NO protection whatsoever against 20 tonnes of lorry that's not a hard statement to make.

They're ONLY designed to prevent concussion if you fall off a stationary bike would be more accurate - that's what the tests are simulating.
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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby pjclinch » 16 Jul 2014, 9:41am

What you can actually expect of a helmet is a reduction in superficial injuries, such as uncomfortable and tender bumps, lacerations from tree branches, grazes and road rash to the scalp and so on.

Looking at the dazed folk who've left Le Tour this week having landed on their heads they're certainly not reliably concussion proof, and having been signed off work for a fortnight some years ago with concussion after an accident in which I was wearing a helmet doesn't leave me thinking they'll really do the "not concussing yourself" with tremendous effectiveness. I think they'll make a useful difference to superficial dazing, which can be handy if you don't want to lose too much time in a race.

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby Tonyf33 » 25 Jul 2014, 3:51pm

Thomas125 wrote:At the risk of turning this into one of THOSE notorius helmet threads :mrgreen: I think they are as much about not concussing yourself if you flip rather than protecting you against 20 tonnes of lorry.

Given what I've just read about what the boxing federationhave done (& their removal of headgear due to increases in concussions) I think that there is a likely increase in concussions through wearing cycle helmets, certainly in the US the increases in concussions in kids cycling is on the increase...

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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby Vorpal » 27 Jul 2014, 9:52am

Tonyf33 wrote:Given what I've just read about what the boxing federationhave done (& their removal of headgear due to increases in concussions) I think that there is a likely increase in concussions through wearing cycle helmets, certainly in the US the increases in concussions in kids cycling is on the increase...

That is interesting, if true. What evidence is there to support this? Or is it just that more parents are taking children to the emergency room when they bump their heads?
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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby Graham » 27 Jul 2014, 11:13am

Boxing headgear topic is here . . . . .
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Re: Magic hats in France

Postby Puny but determined » 2 Sep 2014, 2:02pm

I have just been enquiring about insurance with Brittany Ferries as we are about to set off for France. I was told by the (French) person answering the phone (0871 244 1501) that helmets are compulsory. I am almost certain that he is wrong and said so, to which he replied that we will be stopped straight away without one! Is this something I have missed?