Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

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Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby james01 » 17 Sep 2014, 8:50am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-le ... e-29222775

He obviously had it coming to him. He probably wasn't wearing a fluorescent jacket either.

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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby beardy » 17 Sep 2014, 9:02am

He probably was wearing one while he was riding, his mistake was in taking it off when he dismounted.

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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby Psamathe » 17 Sep 2014, 9:09am

He was in a car park. During working hours, doing work there, doing his job. Or course he would have been wearing a hi-vis jacket. When I was in Waitrose the other day, people working in the car park were all wearing hi-vis waistcoats. Health & Safety.

And after my experiences in Waitrose car park last week, those Range Rover's don't like hi-vis waistcoats and try to run you down - which these historians should realise maybe explains why Richard died in a car park.

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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby 661-Pete » 17 Sep 2014, 9:53am

Seeing as this all happened during the Winter of his Discontent, I'll bet he wasn't carrying any lights, either...
Suppose that this room is a lift. The support breaks and down we go with ever-increasing velocity.
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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby thirdcrank » 17 Sep 2014, 10:01am

I find it hard to believe he was "on the road" especially as it's suggested elsewhere that he couldn't rustle up a horse.

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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby mercalia » 17 Sep 2014, 10:47am

clearly a victim of road rage by our cabby friend

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History could have been vert different...

Postby pjclinch » 17 Sep 2014, 1:37pm

I imagine someone will manage to take this completely out of context before long... :wink:

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/16/richard-iii-died-battle-losing-helmet-new-research
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Re: History could have been vert different...

Postby beardy » 17 Sep 2014, 1:48pm

It does seem that they have made the evidence fit their preconception of what happened.

They "knew" he was horseless so they have made a scenario that fits the supposition, "the hip injury must have been sustained carrying the body after death".

We dont really know much more than the injuries which are on the body and they have used a story book to fill in the rest.

Was there enough of the body left to determine any soft tissue damage, like a belly wound?

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Re: History could have been vert different...

Postby geocycle » 17 Sep 2014, 2:15pm

The only clear wound was the dagger up the bum, clearly a consequence of not wearing a helmet!

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Re: History could have been vert different...

Postby 661-Pete » 17 Sep 2014, 10:15pm

What's more, he'd already killed five people by mistake:
Richard III wrote:Slave! I have set my life upon a cast,
And I will stand the hazard of the die:
I think there be six Richmonds in the field;
Five have I slain to-day, instead of him.
A horse! a horse! my kingdom for a horse!

Someone with that poor road-sense was just asking for trouble...
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Let us pass the time by performing physical experiments...
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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby Pete Owens » 17 Sep 2014, 11:05pm

661-Pete wrote:Seeing as this all happened during the Winter of his Discontent, I'll bet he wasn't carrying any lights, either...

Not quite - his brother had turned it into glorious summer 25 years earlier.

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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby TonyR » 18 Sep 2014, 7:03am

His mistake was to obey the Horse Riders Dismount sign in the car park.

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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby 661-Pete » 18 Sep 2014, 8:59am

Pete Owens wrote:
661-Pete wrote:Seeing as this all happened during the Winter of his Discontent, I'll bet he wasn't carrying any lights, either...

Not quite - his brother had turned it into glorious summer 25 years earlier.

Ah yes - but
..all the clouds that lour'd upon our house

probably obscured his vision somewhat...
Suppose that this room is a lift. The support breaks and down we go with ever-increasing velocity.
Let us pass the time by performing physical experiments...
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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby gaz » 18 Sep 2014, 8:33pm

2020 : To redundancy ... and beyond!

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Re: Richard 111 "Not wearing helmet"

Postby Mick F » 18 Sep 2014, 8:40pm

:lol: :lol:
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