Do you wear a helmet?

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Do you wear a helmet?

Yes
36
31%
No
55
47%
Sometimes
27
23%
 
Total votes: 118

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby TonyR » 30 Mar 2015, 9:18pm

Tonyf33 wrote:Why are we allowing one set of people such freedom to chose but seemingly not another which is often accompanied by bile, strongly phrased words & blame to impart their 'choice' onto you. :evil:


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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby bovlomov » 30 Mar 2015, 10:26pm

Tonyf33 wrote:Why are we allowing one set of people such freedom to chose but seemingly not another which is often accompanied by bile, strongly phrased words & blame to impart their 'choice' onto you. :evil:

Because our freedom mocks their enslavement. While they are toiling away miserably beneath their sweaty polystyrene hats, they see the carefree helmetless experiencing the joy of true freedom. Understandably they are angry about it, and more than a little jealous. For a number of reasons (to do with complicated psychology: unhappy birth experiences, weak fathers etc), rather than casting off their own shackles, they seek to drag us all into their behelmeted servitude. I think.

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Mar 2015, 10:39pm

bovlomov wrote:
Tonyf33 wrote:Why are we allowing one set of people such freedom to chose but seemingly not another which is often accompanied by bile, strongly phrased words & blame to impart their 'choice' onto you. :evil:

Because our freedom mocks their enslavement. While they are toiling away miserably beneath their sweaty polystyrene hats, they see the carefree helmetless experiencing the joy of true freedom. Understandably they are angry about it, and more than a little jealous. For a number of reasons (to do with complicated psychology: unhappy birth experiences, weak fathers etc), rather than casting off their own shackles, they seek to drag us all into their behelmeted servitude. I think.


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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby bovlomov » 30 Mar 2015, 11:09pm

reohn2 wrote:You only THINK,you should KNOW! :wink:

Yeah, but there'll always be a few who think they're exceptions, so I'm giving them a loophole.

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby reohn2 » 30 Mar 2015, 11:12pm

bovlomov wrote:
reohn2 wrote:You only THINK,you should KNOW! :wink:

Yeah, but there'll always be a few who think they're exceptions, so I'm giving them a loophole.


In that case I'll let you off :)
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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby Tonyf33 » 30 Mar 2015, 11:12pm

bovlomov wrote:Yeah, but there'll always be a few who think they're exceptions, so I'm giving them a loophole.

:lol:

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby robing » 29 May 2015, 8:42am

I can't understand the maybes. If you're going to wear a helmet then surely it's either all the time or not at all.

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby pjclinch » 29 May 2015, 9:07am

robing wrote:I can't understand the maybes. If you're going to wear a helmet then surely it's either all the time or not at all.


Think about what the answer would be if the question was "do you wear a raincoat?" It would typically be a "maybe", according to whether it looked like rain.

I'll wear a helmet doing technical MTB where I expect to fall off and where the council don't cut overhanging branches, or if I'm doing Go-Ride coaching because the rules say I must. I put one on when I was learning to ride a unicycle (that's me doing just that in my avatar pic, I don't use a lid for that any more). I don't use one for general road riding where the risk context is totally different.

It could be comfort context too. Just too hot on a properly hot day, for example.

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby robing » 29 May 2015, 9:13am

pjclinch wrote:
robing wrote:I can't understand the maybes. If you're going to wear a helmet then surely it's either all the time or not at all.


Think about what the answer would be if the question was "do you wear a raincoat?" It would typically be a "maybe", according to whether it looked like rain.

I'll wear a helmet doing technical MTB where I expect to fall off and where the council don't cut overhanging branches, or if I'm doing Go-Ride coaching because the rules say I must. I put one on when I was learning to ride a unicycle (that's me doing just that in my avatar pic, I don't use a lid for that any more). I don't use one for general road riding where the risk context is totally different.

It could be comfort context too. Just too hot on a properly hot day, for example.

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I don't think you can compare it to wearing a raincoat. If it rains and you don't have one the worst that will happen is you will get wet. If you don't wear your helmet and that happens to be the time you get knocked off your bike, then you could get a serious head injury.

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby broadway » 29 May 2015, 9:34am

robing wrote:
I don't think you can compare it to wearing a raincoat. If it rains and you don't have one the worst that will happen is you will get wet. If you get knocked off your bike, then you could get a serious head injury.


FTFY

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby TonyR » 29 May 2015, 9:40am

broadway wrote:
robing wrote:
I don't think you can compare it to wearing a raincoat. If it rains and you don't have one the worst that will happen is you will get wet. If you're wearing a helmet and get knocked off your bike, then you could get a serious head injury.


FTFY


FTFY properly in line with the best available research evidence out there.

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby Steady rider » 29 May 2015, 9:48am

http://www.cycle-helmets.com/robinson-head-injuries.pdf

The report details the number of head injuries and the equivalent number relating to cycling levels, Table 2 and Table 5. It shows a negative result from helmet laws in terms of both safety and cycling levels.

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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby Vorpal » 29 May 2015, 10:07am

robing wrote:I don't think you can compare it to wearing a raincoat. If it rains and you don't have one the worst that will happen is you will get wet. If you don't wear your helmet and that happens to be the time you get knocked off your bike, then you could get a serious head injury.

I have been miserably cold and near hypothermia for being without my raincoat. I know one cyclist who was hospitalised with hypothermia in the same situation I was in, and he wasn't the only one.

I have never, on the other hand, had a serious head injury.
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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby mjr » 29 May 2015, 10:51am

Vorpal wrote:I have been miserably cold and near hypothermia for being without my raincoat. I know one cyclist who was hospitalised with hypothermia in the same situation I was in, and he wasn't the only one.

I have never, on the other hand, had a serious head injury.

Aye. That's why a small packable walking waterproof and my sealskinz gloves are almost always in my rack pack unless it's a short ride and I'm sure conditions will remain good enough (including not minding if I get soaked on the way home). The waterproof works as a very insulating layer if needed (if it's raining but not cold, I usually remove my jumper before putting it on).

It still surprises me that some people are willing to lug a helmet around but not smaller/lighter/cheaper/more-durable kit that prevents far more likely problems, such as a waterproof, gloves, goggles, sunblock, mini-toolkit...
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Re: Do you wear a helmet?

Postby robing » 29 May 2015, 11:40am

I don't want to get in to an argument about pros and cons of helmets. All I am saying is that if you choose to wear a helmet, then it makes no sense to wear it some of the time. It's like saying I'll wear a seatbelt when I drive on the motorway but not around town. When I have come off my bike ( thankfully not often) I didn't expect to come off.