Best Lightweight sleeping bag/ good quality.

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andrew_s
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Re: Best Lightweight sleeping bag/ good quality.

Postby andrew_s » 5 Dec 2017, 12:17pm

Down bags getting stinky isn't anything I've heard of either, though down does have its own (slight) aroma even when new.
Generally, artificial fibres are more stinky than natural (think synthetic vs wool/silk base layers).

I do notice that Snugpak and Lifeventure offer anti-bacterial treatments on their synthetic sleeping bags, and such treatments are often in order to fend off stinkiness.

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Re: Best Lightweight sleeping bag/ good quality.

Postby Eton Rifle » 6 Dec 2017, 7:39am

pjclinch wrote:
crazydave789 wrote:I'd stay away from down for summer use unless as mentioned it's cold otherwise they stink up pretty quickly


They do? The main reason I like a liner in a down bag is to keep it clean. I'm more interested in that in summer as I'm more likely to be sweaty (or if it's sea paddling, encrusted in salt and sun cream), but as long as you use a liner and keep that clean I don't see why this should be much of an issue.

Pete.


I've been using down bags for years and never noticed a problem with odour. In any case, why would the filling be a factor in this? I do always wear a silk base layer and liner socks to sleep in.

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Re: Best Lightweight sleeping bag/ good quality.

Postby boblo » 6 Dec 2017, 8:01am

I've also been using down bags for ~30 years and haven't found this a problem. I usually wear longjohns and a long sleeve base layer or use a liner to try and limit transfer of bodily 'mank' to the bag. Mine are never quite the same after they've been cleaned so I try and put it off for as long as possible.

My summer bike/backpacking bag, a PHD Minim has maybe 250 nights on it and hasn't reached biohazard status. I air on the line very thoroughly after a trip and keep it in the airing cupboard for a few days to ensure it's fully dried out.

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Re: Best Lightweight sleeping bag/ good quality.

Postby hamish » 6 Dec 2017, 9:54pm

Going by my own personal experience rather than the say so of others, I think Alpkit was one of the poorest sleeping bags I have used. Not very well made and lots of cold spots.


I have an older alpkit pipedream. My daughter has a sky high. For the cash they are excellent. The pipedream bag fabric is ok but the construction is not as good as my other daughter's Rab. It's a bit rough. The down however is really good, very good loft and low feather... Much better than the down in the Rab. It packs really small and despite the average finish, it would be really hard to replace at a reasonable price. The sky high is better made but the down isn't as good - but then it's a cheaper bag and really good value...

My understanding is that Alpkit knew the limitations of their previous supplier and decided to change manufacturer. I would be interested to see if their newer bags have the same excellent down in a better construction.

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Re: Best Lightweight sleeping bag/ good quality.

Postby irc » 7 Dec 2017, 7:59pm

andrew_s wrote:PHD Minim 300
https://www.phdesigns.co.uk/minim-300-d ... ing-bag-m1

I'd pay the £41 extra for a full length zip, for added versatility when it's warm


And for anyone who isn't an average size the PHD comes in several widths and lengths for a perfect fit.

As for zips - I have a Minim 300 with half zip and a Minim 200 with no zip. I prefer the no zip. If I get warm I push the bag down to my chest/waist. With a loose fitting bag getting in and out without a zip is easy.

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Re: Best Lightweight sleeping bag/ good quality.

Postby pjclinch » 8 Dec 2017, 2:50pm

irc wrote:
andrew_s wrote:PHD Minim 300
https://www.phdesigns.co.uk/minim-300-d ... ing-bag-m1

I'd pay the £41 extra for a full length zip, for added versatility when it's warm


And for anyone who isn't an average size the PHD comes in several widths and lengths for a perfect fit.

As for zips - I have a Minim 300 with half zip and a Minim 200 with no zip. I prefer the no zip. If I get warm I push the bag down to my chest/waist. With a loose fitting bag getting in and out without a zip is easy.


I have an ME Dewline with no zip, and can confirm that pushing the top down a bit is indeed a workable solution. But I'd prefer a zip... Being all inside a bag with a vent up the side gives a more balanced (and I think more comfortable) solution than your legs being on the hot side and your trunk being on the cool side. Having said that, I've owned that bag for about 15 years and not felt the need to do anything more about it so we're not in the realm of deal-breaking.

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