meic wrote:Braces, or suspenders if you come from across the pond.
So between you in your suspenders, Gattonero with his fanny pack and me just being weird naturally we make an odd lot out camping.
Fanny pack?
I got my feet in, not my crotch!
meic wrote:Braces, or suspenders if you come from across the pond.
So between you in your suspenders, Gattonero with his fanny pack and me just being weird naturally we make an odd lot out camping.
The Thermarest quilt is big enough to allow this, but remember that compressing the down by lying on it means there is little insulation anyway. I like a good mat and a laid out quilt, tucked around if a bit cold.mattsccm wrote:Quilts. How do you keep something between you and the mat? Fold it in half and lie on it?
The Thermarest one has a pocket at the foot end to contain the end of the mat. I found that using a full zip bag (fully unzipped) meant that I had irritating zips to contend with not to mention neck baffles and a hood that always seemed to be in the way. The quilt of course has none of these which has the side effect of making it lighter and pack smaller.Wouldn't a full zip bag do the same plus have a " pocket " to keep it in place round your feet?
mattsccm wrote:Ah!
What's always put me off a quilt is that when you move they leave gaps around you unless they are huge in which case they weigh the same as a bag. Eg A normal house hold single isn't wide enough is it? Also you are then lying on the mat which will be nasty synthetic stuff. What about your head? Pillows don't stay in one place. I am ready to be convinced here.
mattsccm wrote:Quilts. How do you keep something between you and the mat? Fold it in half and lie on it?
Wouldn't a full zip bag do the same plus have a " pocket " to keep it in place round your feet?
crazydave789 wrote:how about bubble wrap? cheap, weighs nowt and you just roll yourself to the required TOG with no need for a mat. good for stress too if you can't sleep
I never manage to stay on a sleep mat unless it's in the bivvy bag with me or i'm in a slit trench as I move too much. maybe it's because when I were a lad we didn't have sleep mats.
crazydave789 wrote:another plus for the bubble wrap is you can float away when caught in a flash flood.
another option in summer is sleep during the day and ride at night, I'm a night person and sweat like a fish so anything over 50 miles and a hot summer used to fuel up and potter off while the roads were quiet, stick the radio in my ears and enjoy it, just flicking my light on and off when I saw something coming, much less sweat so less fluids, fewer bugs too and often less windy, I used to do york-nottingham/belper quite often.
I'd have a nap curled up in the sun mid morning if I needed one and hadn't arrived.
mind you I managed a bowling alley at the time so would leave work at 3am after cashing up etc.. and then take 70 miles to do the 14mile ride home by riding around the howardian hills, it's interesting how when you can't see the top of a hill you aren't as upset about it when climbing up it.
even though I'm still finding my legs I prefer to spend two hours night riding here in south birmingham than go out in the day.
is there such a thing a vampire cycling?
crazydave789 wrote:how about bubble wrap? cheap, weighs nowt and you just roll yourself to the required TOG ...
crazydave789 wrote:t, just flicking my light on and off when I saw something coming,