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Sleeping bag

Posted: 6 May 2019, 11:19am
by st599_uk
Hi all,

Looking for a decent sleeping bag that packs down small.

Probably only needed for Late Spring, Summer and Early Autumn - so 2/3 seasons.

Would a decent down bag pack down small? Are there any brands to look out for?

S

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 6 May 2019, 12:11pm
by irc
Budget? For top end kit and high but value for the quality prices PHD designs. If you are much taller/shorter or thinner/fatter than average they do several lengths and widths. Worth watching for their sales a couple of time a year. Gets prices down a bit. I have 2 PHD bags and can't fault them. Look online for other independent reviews.

Lower budget Alpkit are worth a look. Not always everything in stock but have a good reputation for value for money. As long as you fit a standard bag. Many bags aren't wide or long enough for me.

The Pipedream 400 would be a true 3 season bag good for down to freezing at £215.

https://www.alpkit.com/products/pipedream-400#features

The Pipedream 200 looks like only a summer bag to me. 200g of down filling so half that of the 400. Also the 200 has stitch-thru baffle construction rather than box baffles. So the +7 rating is probably accurate. Bearing in mind there was frost this week near sea level in central Scotland. It's really a June July August bag.

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 6 May 2019, 4:52pm
by honesty
I like the look of the Sea to Summit Explore as a purchase for my next bag. I’m getting more and more annoyed with mummy bags that don’t let me move my legs...

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 6 May 2019, 5:26pm
by MrsHJ
I’ve got the thermarest quilt. So pleased to get my bag, tent and mat into about 2/3 of a pannier.
https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk ... ilt-p11278

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 7 May 2019, 8:57pm
by st599_uk
Many thanks for all the replies.

Looking at the links, I'm thinking somewhere up to £200 would be my limit.

The Alpkit stuff looks good, as do some of the Big Agnes and OMM ones on the sites linked.

As an ex-prop, I'll try and go to some places where they can be tried out for size.

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 8 May 2019, 11:32am
by st599_uk
PS Would i be correct in assuming that a 4 season sleeping bag rated to -5C, would be a bit warm in it was 15C during the summer?

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 8 May 2019, 11:55am
by pjclinch
st599_uk wrote:PS Would i be correct in assuming that a 4 season sleeping bag rated to -5C, would be a bit warm in it was 15C during the summer?


What do you mean by "rating" here (and, while we're at it, "4 season")?

See https://www.getoutwiththekids.co.uk/camping/camping-tips/sleeping-bag-temperature-ratings/ for some further explanation of the various ratings out there.

You can make a warmer bag useful for warmer temperatures by unzipping it and/or using it like a quilt, but if it's 15 C overnight then you'd probably be fine in a lightweight liner and don't bother with the pit at all.

Pete.

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 8 May 2019, 2:05pm
by irc
st599_uk wrote:PS Would i be correct in assuming that a 4 season sleeping bag rated to -5C, would be a bit warm in it was 15C during the summer?



As Pete says it depends. Bags are often given two ratings. Comfort and extreme. But in any case any genuine 4 seasos bag will be too warm at 15c

I,be toured with my Minim 200 bag in overnight temps varying from 25c to below 0c.

That involves lying on top of the bag with just pants on and still being too warm at one extreme to wearing fleece trousers, cashmere jersey and woolly hat and the bag drawn up tight round my face at the other.

In-between I might regulate my comfort by having my arms in or out the bag. Or having the bag over me as a quilt.

Looking at down bags I believe you want a filling of 300 to 400g of decent quality down for a bag that will cover most conditions short of full on winter well below freezing every night.

But it depends if you are a warm or cold sleeper as well.

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 8 May 2019, 2:06pm
by Sweep
st599_uk wrote:Hi all,

Looking for a decent sleeping bag that packs down small.

Probably only needed for Late Spring, Summer and Early Autumn - so 2/3 seasons.

Would a decent down bag pack down small? Are there any brands to look out for?

S


Can I ask where you are st599?

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 8 May 2019, 6:56pm
by st599_uk
Sweep wrote:
st599_uk wrote:Hi all,

Looking for a decent sleeping bag that packs down small.

Probably only needed for Late Spring, Summer and Early Autumn - so 2/3 seasons.

Would a decent down bag pack down small? Are there any brands to look out for?

S


Can I ask where you are st599?
Based in UK, but travel an awful lot for work. Normally try and tag a trip on at the end.

Last time camping was Zambia, but have plans for S. France and Germany this year, possibly Japan next year.

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 9 May 2019, 9:01am
by Gontlib
I use this in late Spring and Summer in Europe. Packs very small. Comfort rating 7C
https://www.snugpak.com/outdoor/travelpak-1.
Currently around £30-35 on Amazon.
There's also the Travalpak-2, which is their two season bag but I've no experience of it

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 9 May 2019, 10:48pm
by Sweep
st599_uk wrote:
Sweep wrote:
st599_uk wrote:Hi all,

Looking for a decent sleeping bag that packs down small.

Probably only needed for Late Spring, Summer and Early Autumn - so 2/3 seasons.

Would a decent down bag pack down small? Are there any brands to look out for?

S


Can I ask where you are st599?
Based in UK, but travel an awful lot for work. Normally try and tag a trip on at the end.

Last time camping was Zambia, but have plans for S. France and Germany this year, possibly Japan next year.


I meant where in the uk.

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 11 May 2019, 7:51am
by st599_uk
Near London. THink I'll head in and visit a few shops.

Re: Sleeping bag

Posted: 11 May 2019, 8:03am
by Sweep
Ok. If more northerly, like lancs/yorks i could have suggested a couple of places to check out.