Tent run over at campsite

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Tent run over at campsite

Postby whoof » 20 Aug 2019, 3:19pm

Whenever I've seen/heard motor vehicles driving at night in campsites I wondered about the possibility of this especially when you're in a small, possibly green backpacking tent and the person in the car is coming back from the pub.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/c ... ailsignout

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby Tangled Metal » 20 Aug 2019, 3:21pm

Especially on sloping sites and cars with dodgy handbrake. We always bear that in mind when picking a plot for our tent.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby Vorpal » 20 Aug 2019, 3:59pm

This description takes the cake

We were called on Monday 19 August at approximately 02:02 am to reports of a collision between a vehicle and a tent in Caernarfon
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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby 1982john » 20 Aug 2019, 4:05pm

In this country, I would not be at all surprised if the driver gets off with diminished responsibility because the tent did not have the proper lights or not adorned in hi-vis.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby whoof » 20 Aug 2019, 4:14pm

Vorpal wrote:This description takes the cake

We were called on Monday 19 August at approximately 02:02 am to reports of a collision between a vehicle and a tent in Caernarfon


Someone did some analysis on how language was used in the reporting of road traffic collisions in the media. In the case of pedestrian/car it will say ped in collision with car. In the case of ped/bike it will say ped hit by cyclists.
Two things; firstly one makes it sound as if the ped in some way ran into the car. The second is more subtle, it's the car and not the driver that did it but it wasn't the bike it was the person riding it.

I read an article saying an elderly lady had got herself stuck under a car after being in collision with it. You know what these old biddys are like, running into cars and then jamming themselves underneath them.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby rualexander » 20 Aug 2019, 4:19pm

whoof wrote:Whenever I've seen/heard motor vehicles driving at night in campsites I wondered about the possibility of this especially when you're in a small, possibly green backpacking tent and the person in the car is coming back from the pub.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/c ... ailsignout


This has happened a few times before I believe, I seem to remember a similar incident a decade or so ago, maybe in Norway or somewhere.

Also other camping dangers :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 89256.html

https://www.thelocal.de/20170802/severe ... ng-one-boy

Plus all the usual animal related dangers, bears, etc.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby james01 » 20 Aug 2019, 4:22pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49411705
Driver charged. Some injuries, one serious.
I have a "thing" about camping with motor vehicles in the same area, and try to use sites where they are segregated from lightweight campers.

Years ago I spent a very uneasy night at a poorly-regulated surfers' campsite - cars hurtling in at 4 am from beach parties, engines revving, handbrake turns etc.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby LollyKat » 23 Aug 2019, 11:47am

Vorpal wrote:This description takes the cake

We were called on Monday 19 August at approximately 02:02 am to reports of a collision between a vehicle and a tent in Caernarfon


A few years ago a BBC News Scotland web page reported that a pier had collided with a CalMac ferry... Unfortunately it was corrected before I thought of taking a screenshot.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby fastpedaller » 23 Aug 2019, 1:27pm

whoof wrote:
Vorpal wrote:This description takes the cake

We were called on Monday 19 August at approximately 02:02 am to reports of a collision between a vehicle and a tent in Caernarfon


Someone did some analysis on how language was used in the reporting of road traffic collisions in the media. In the case of pedestrian/car it will say ped in collision with car. In the case of ped/bike it will say ped hit by cyclists.
Two things; firstly one makes it sound as if the ped in some way ran into the car. The second is more subtle, it's the car and not the driver that did it but it wasn't the bike it was the person riding it.

I read an article saying an elderly lady had got herself stuck under a car after being in collision with it. You know what these old biddys are like, running into cars and then jamming themselves underneath them.


Similarly when they say the pedestrian 'broke their arm'..... No the car hitting them broke their arm :evil:

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby mattheus » 23 Aug 2019, 1:57pm

james01 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49411705
Driver charged. Some injuries, one serious.
I have a "thing" about camping with motor vehicles in the same area, and try to use sites where they are segregated from lightweight campers.

Years ago I spent a very uneasy night at a poorly-regulated surfers' campsite - cars hurtling in at 4 am from beach parties, engines revving, handbrake turns etc.


I haven't done much camping - and most of it was waaaay back, and we always drove. So I hadn't thought about this issue.

What you say seems like good advice!

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby reohn2 » 23 Aug 2019, 2:05pm

1982john wrote:In this country, I would not be at all surprised if the driver gets off with diminished responsibility because the tent did not have the proper lights or not adorned in hi-vis.

And the campers weren't wearing helmets :?
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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby pete75 » 23 Aug 2019, 2:40pm

james01 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49411705
Driver charged. Some injuries, one serious.
I have a "thing" about camping with motor vehicles in the same area, and try to use sites where they are segregated from lightweight campers.

Years ago I spent a very uneasy night at a poorly-regulated surfers' campsite - cars hurtling in at 4 am from beach parties, engines revving, handbrake turns etc.


He must have crashed off the road into the campsite as he's been charged with having no insurance. The campsite is private property so no insurance required for driving on it. I don't think any of the other offences can be committed on private property either.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby ossie » 23 Aug 2019, 5:03pm

pete75 wrote:
james01 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49411705
Driver charged. Some injuries, one serious.
I have a "thing" about camping with motor vehicles in the same area, and try to use sites where they are segregated from lightweight campers.

Years ago I spent a very uneasy night at a poorly-regulated surfers' campsite - cars hurtling in at 4 am from beach parties, engines revving, handbrake turns etc.


He must have crashed off the road into the campsite as he's been charged with having no insurance. The campsite is private property so no insurance required for driving on it. I don't think any of the other offences can be committed on private property either.


It was previously the case that if the public had access you would need Insurance. A caravan park has been deemed to be a public place DPP v Vivier [1991] This location would appear to be a caravan / camp site.


I recall a Incident near Swanage in the 80's where a car left the road and hit several tents on an adjacent camp site killing someone.

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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby pwa » 28 Aug 2019, 3:36pm

Very sadly the lady most seriously injured has died. She was 46. Her killer has apparently admitted causing injury by dangerous driving, having been drunk at the time. He has expressed remorse and accepted he deserves punishment, which may or may not help the bereaved family come to terms with what has happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49495907
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Re: Tent run over at campsite

Postby NUKe » 28 Aug 2019, 3:48pm

whoof wrote:
nirakaro wrote:"Cow falls from sky, sinks boat -
In 1997, the crew of a Japanese fishing boat was pulled from the Sea of Japan after clinging to the boat's wreckage for several hours. They were immediately arrested, however, after authorities interrogated them about the boat's fate. To a man, they claimed a cow had fallen from the sky, apparently coming from nowhere, and struck the boat amidships, resulting in a huge hole and its rapid sinking.
The crew remained in prison for several weeks until Japanese authorities were contacted by several highly embarrassed Russian air force officials. It turned out that the crew of a Russian cargo plane had stolen a cow that wandered near their Siberian airfield and forced it onto their plane before they took off for a flight home. Once airborne, the cow apparently panicked and starting rampaging through the cargo hold, causing the crew also to panic because it was affecting the plane's stability. They solved the problem by shoving the cow out of the hold while crossing the Sea of Japan at 30,000 feet."

Being alive is just a risky business!

The sinking of a boat by a cow falling from the sky has probably only ever happened once in the entire history of the planet. In the time I've taken to type this someone somewhere has been run over by a car, one of the things that defines risk is probability.

It has never happened, it is an urban legend
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