foxyrider wrote:nsew wrote:pjclinch wrote:Tents will almost always pack down much better if you separate the poles and pack them separately. Once you do that it becomes a simple matter of volume of material, and less/thinner will save you packing bulk. If you have a 4 Kg 3 person tent, a lot of packing bulk.
What about the poles? You can strap them ion to the rack, up the seat tube, along the frame, stand them up in the front bag, anything you want.
Pete.
These are all places where they’re vulnerable to damage and a faff to tie and untie. Poles are best protected on tour rolled up wIthin the tent.
my tent pole(s) have never been rolled into the canvas, in fact the advice from the mfr is to not fold roll the canvas at all which precludes poles in canvas! Its realy the daftest place to put the poles, you risk damaging the tent, you make the packed canvas bigger and combined you may well restrict your packing options. FWIW, i have the tent in three bags, pegs, canvas, poles plus mallet along with sleep mat and sleeping bag in one 20l Back Roller with room for my locks and overflow food/clothing. I did the same with the previous tent but the poles were longer so they were strapped along the tack stays - not sure how they'd be damaged there or in the bag
Canvas tent, locks, mallet, food, clothing, pegs, sleeping bag, mattress, poles, in one bag? No thanks. One pannier kitchen, one pannier clothing, one bag bedding, one bag shelter.