Would a bear be interested?
Jonathan (Asking for the Pope)
Would a bear be interested?
It's only a single use plastic baggie if that's what you choose to use.Mike Sales wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 1:05pm
A single use plastic bag(gie)? Which then goes into landfill?
I would want a secure and impervious bag.pjclinch wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 10:10amIt's only a single use plastic baggie if that's what you choose to use.Mike Sales wrote: ↑12 Oct 2021, 1:05pm
A single use plastic bag(gie)? Which then goes into landfill?
If you really want to play the eco card, stop faffing about with toilet paper...
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You only need to get the paper as far as your main rubbish bag (which most folk will want to be secure and impervious): as noted, it is a non-issue in action.Mike Sales wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 10:49am
I would want a secure and impervious bag.
I am happy with a decent burial.
Whether in a tip or a hole, the turd and the paper have to be decomposed by the same micro-organisms.
Are not the decomposers in the municipal tip already busy with all the other discarded rubbish, then?pjclinch wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 4:13pmYou only need to get the paper as far as your main rubbish bag (which most folk will want to be secure and impervious): as noted, it is a non-issue in action.Mike Sales wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 10:49am
I would want a secure and impervious bag.
I am happy with a decent burial.
Whether in a tip or a hole, the turd and the paper have to be decomposed by the same micro-organisms.
As for "the same micro-organisms", there are finite quantities in any given location and a pile of poo plus paper will take longer than a pile of poo, and it'll take longer in an environment where you may not want the extra.
Like I said, if you really do a proper job on buying it in the middle of nowhere nobody should know, but as a general principle it is best to advise packing it out. I rationalised leaving it locally buried for years, but in the end I realised I was just rationalising away a job I didn't want to do.
Pete.
At the local tip you have a fenced off place where you know it's horrible. It doesn't necessarily make sense to spread that out.Mike Sales wrote: ↑13 Oct 2021, 4:22pm
Are not the decomposers in the municipal tip already busy with all the other discarded rubbish, then?
These things do not disappear unaided, in the ground or tip.
What variety of non-plastic rubbish bag do you recommend?
That may be the case on good farmland, but where we wild camp in the hills could be very different - at the worst bury it in peat bog and it may be well preserved for 5 millennia
Why anyone would go in a peat bog is beyond me!Pebble wrote: ↑14 Oct 2021, 8:53amThat may be the case on good farmland, but where we wild camp in the hills could be very different - at the worst bury it in peat bog and it may be well preserved for 5 millennia
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still find this obsession with toilet paper a little bizarre, why do people who go wild camping take the stuff with them, always plenty of natural alternatives to use - people who work outside in the hills and forestry don't go about with a pack of toilet rolls all day, or at least I have never seen anyone who does. Not quite as whacky as folk hoarding the stuff at the beginning of the pandemic! We're a nation obsessed with overly clean bottoms - lol
Not sure which is worse, leaving the used paper in the open to blow about, or wrapping it up in plastic, carrying it about in your sack for days then sending it off to land fill to be preserved for eternity.
If there's nothing else for miles around there's only so much choice!Oldjohnw wrote: ↑14 Oct 2021, 8:55amWhy anyone would go in a peat bog is beyond me!Pebble wrote: ↑14 Oct 2021, 8:53amThat may be the case on good farmland, but where we wild camp in the hills could be very different - at the worst bury it in peat bog and it may be well preserved for 5 millennia
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still find this obsession with toilet paper a little bizarre, why do people who go wild camping take the stuff with them, always plenty of natural alternatives to use - people who work outside in the hills and forestry don't go about with a pack of toilet rolls all day, or at least I have never seen anyone who does. Not quite as whacky as folk hoarding the stuff at the beginning of the pandemic! We're a nation obsessed with overly clean bottoms - lol
Not sure which is worse, leaving the used paper in the open to blow about, or wrapping it up in plastic, carrying it about in your sack for days then sending it off to land fill to be preserved for eternity.
Don't burn stuff in a bog -- you can start a fire which can run deep under ground ( ie the peat is alight ) and very difficult to put out.